Surface Area of a Sphere without double integral

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The discussion revolves around finding a derivation of the surface area of a sphere without employing double integrals. Participants explore various methods and concepts from calculus, including single variable calculus and geometric theorems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of double integrals for deriving the surface area of a sphere and suggests exploring shell integration, although they note its typical application to volumes.
  • Another participant mentions that surface areas can be computed using single variable calculus, but highlights the complexity involved, specifically referencing the need to use arc length in the calculations.
  • A suggestion is made to apply the First Theorem of Pappus to a semi-circular arc as a potential method for deriving the surface area.
  • A later reply reiterates the suggestion of Pappus' theorem and expresses enthusiasm about its application.
  • Another participant proposes a relationship between the volume and surface area of a sphere, indicating that if the volume can be calculated, the surface area can be derived from it using the derivative of volume with respect to radius.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for deriving the surface area of a sphere without double integrals. Multiple competing approaches and ideas are presented, reflecting a range of opinions and techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed rely on specific assumptions about the geometry of the sphere and the applicability of certain theorems, which may not be universally accepted or straightforward. The complexity of the calculations involved in single variable calculus for surface area is also noted.

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Is it possible to come up with a derivation of the surface area of a sphere without using a double integral? Most of the ones I've found seem to involve double integrals;

For example, this was given as the "simplest" explanation in a thread from 2005:

S=\iint dS=R^{2}\int_{0}^{2\pi}d\varphi \int_{0}^{\pi} d\vartheta \ \sin\vartheta

I was thinking about using shell integration for it, but as I recall, shell integration and solids of revolution deal only in volumes, not surface areas (This was by far my weakest area of Calc II, FWIW).

I'm going to be doing double integrals fairly soon, but I wanted to know if there was a more simplistic method so I wouldn't have to wait until then.
 
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You can do surface areas in single variable calculus, but they are just as ugly as they are in multivariable. The reason is that instead of using dx you have to use ds where ds = arc length = ##\sqrt{1+ (\frac{dy}{dx})^2} dx##

The general formula for surface area is ##SA = \int 2 \pi y ds##. So a formula for surface area of a unit sphere would be ##\int_{-1}^{1}{2 \pi y \sqrt{1+ (\frac{dy}{dx})^2}} dx## where y is the half circle of radius 1.
 
You might try the First Theorem of Pappus applied to a semi-circular arc.
 
SteamKing said:
You might try the First Theorem of Pappus applied to a semi-circular arc.

Wow, that's a super cool theorem. Never knew about that.
 
Pappus' theorem is a cool way.

Another way goes like this. For a sphere, let V(r) be the volume, and S(r) be surface area (as a function of radius).

Then V(r) = V(1)r^3 and V'(r) = S(r). Therefore, S(r) = 3V(1)r^2.

So if you can calculate the volume of a sphere (via the method of disks for example), then you can get the surface area this way.
 

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