Surprising rational/irrational formula

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In summary, There is a formula based on limits and elementary functions that can determine whether a given number is rational or irrational. When applied to a rational number, the formula results in a value of 1, while for an irrational number it results in a value of 0. However, the practical application of this formula may be limited as it requires prior knowledge of the number's rationality. Nonetheless, it is still considered a fascinating concept by some individuals.
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I found this interesting. Maybe a few other people here will too. I would have never thought that there is a formula based only on limits and elementary functions that tells whether a given number is rational or irrational. Anyone else think this is cool?

[tex]f(x)=\lim_{m\to\infty}[\lim_{n\to\infty}cos^{2n}(m!\pi x)][/tex]
 
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Not that this is useful for any purpose, because to evaluate that limit you'd probably already have to know if the number is rational or irrational... but I still thought it was neat.
 
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Sur it's cool.
I'm sure it could be used for something, even though that would detract something from its pure beauty.
 
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What exactly is the theorem you are referring to?
 
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If x is rational, f(x)=1, because eventually m! is a multiple of the denominator of x, and so m!x is an integer. Then cos^{2n}(m!x pi) = 1, so the inner limit is 1.

If x is irrational, no matter how high m is, m! is not an integer and so cos^2(m!x pi) is less than one, and so the inner limit is equal to zero and hence f(x)=0.
 

1. What is a surprising rational/irrational formula?

A surprising rational/irrational formula is a mathematical expression that appears to be irrational or unpredictable, but can be simplified or proven to be rational using mathematical principles.

2. How are surprising rational/irrational formulas discovered?

Surprising rational/irrational formulas are often discovered through experimentation and trial and error. They may also be found by analyzing patterns in data or through creative thinking.

3. Can surprising rational/irrational formulas be useful in real-world applications?

Yes, surprising rational/irrational formulas can have practical applications in fields such as cryptography, data compression, and optimization problems. They can also be used to improve calculations and simplify complex equations.

4. Are there any famous examples of surprising rational/irrational formulas?

One famous example is the square root of 2, which is proven to be irrational, but can be approximated by the fraction 577/408. Another example is the golden ratio, which is irrational but has many surprising relationships to other mathematical concepts.

5. How do surprising rational/irrational formulas impact our understanding of mathematics?

Surprising rational/irrational formulas challenge our perception of numbers and the patterns they create. They also demonstrate the complexity and beauty of mathematics, and encourage us to continue exploring and discovering new concepts.

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