Taylor's Theorem for Sin(a+x) and Proving Convergence | Homework Solution

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Homework Statement



Taylor's theorem can be stated f(a+x)=f(a)+xf'(a)+(1/2!)(x^2)f''(a)+...+(1/n!)(x^n)Rn
where Rn=fn(a+y), 0≤y≤x
Use this form of Taylor's theorem to find an expansion of sin(a+x) in powers of x, and show that in this case, mod(\frac{x^n Rn}{n!})\rightarrow0 as n\rightarrow\infty for all x.

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sin(a+x)=sin(a)+xcos(a)-\frac{1}{2!}x^2sin(a)-\frac{1}{3!}x^3cos(a)...

I don't know how to prove the next bit. Also, I don't understand why Rn=fn(a+y) rather than Rn=fn(A). Any help would be great.
 
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I'm still stuck on this. Any help would be brilliant!
 
Hi Lucy Yeats! :smile:

##R_n=f^{(n)}(a+y)## is part of the remainder term.
Taylor's theorem states that there is such an y so that the remainder term is equal to the sum of the remaining terms in the series.

You already have the expansion for sin(a+x), although perhaps you should find a generic formula for the terms.

Furthermore you would need to find the limit of the remainder term.
Can you think of an upper and a lower bound for Rn?
 
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Hello again!

The question says 0≤y≤x, so maybe fn(a)≤Rn≤fn(a+x)?
 
Lucy Yeats said:
Hello again!

The question says 0≤y≤x, so maybe fn(a)≤Rn≤fn(a+x)?

That would only be true if fn would be a monotonically increasing function.
But sines and cosines are notorious for it that they are not.

What do you think ##f^{(n)}(u)## looks like, knowing that f(u)=sin(u)?
 
fn(u) is always between 1 and -1?
 
How did you come to that idea?
 
Because the gradient is always sin, cos, -sin, or -cos, which have ranges between -1 and 1.
 
Right!

So...
 
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Can I have another hint? I really can't see the next step.
 
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You are supposed to find the limit of ##|\frac{x^n R_n}{n!}|##.
What do you know and what can you say about this limit?
 
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So mod(Rn) is between -1 and 1, so I thought about the x^n/n! part. The limit will only be zero if x is less than one. But x could be greater than 1, so I'm confused.
 
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So suppose x>1, say x=100.
What will x^n/n! be for large(r) values of n?
 
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So if x=100, 100^n>n!
 
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Lucy Yeats said:
So if x=100, 100^n>n!

How do you know that 100^n>n! ?
Is that true for every n?
 
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Is that ony true if n<x?
 
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Let's pick a smaller value for x, say x=3.

Then x^3 = 3x3x3 > 1x2x3 = n!
x^4 = 3x3x3x3 > 1x2x3x4 = n!
What do you get for n=5, 6, 7, 10, 100?
 
  • #18
Hey Lucy!

Did you give up on this thread?
That would be a pity!
 
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