Tensile Stress: Understanding Its Effects on Materials and Structures

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding tensile stress, particularly in the context of a homework problem involving a plate with a rivet. Participants explore how tensile stress acts on materials, its relationship to other types of stress, and the calculations involved in determining stress in the given scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants ask for clarification on how tensile stress acts and its relation to the problem at hand.
  • There is a discussion about whether tensile stress is the same as bearing stress, with some arguing that they are distinct due to their definitions and applications.
  • One participant suggests that the largest tensile stress occurs at the middle of the plate, where expansion is greatest.
  • Another participant questions the area calculation related to the rivet and the thickness of the plates, seeking further explanation.
  • Some participants assert that tensile stress acts perpendicularly to the cross-sectional area, while others seek clarification on which surface is being referenced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion regarding the distinctions between tensile stress and bearing stress, indicating a lack of consensus on this topic. Additionally, there are varying levels of understanding about the calculations involved in the problem, suggesting that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific dimensions and areas in their calculations, but there is uncertainty regarding the assumptions made in these calculations and how they relate to the overall understanding of tensile stress.

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Homework Statement


can someone explain about part b (tensile stress) here? in which way does the stress act?

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The Attempt at a Solution


FromW wikipedia, tensile stress refres to the stress to break a rope...How does it related to the case above?
 

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chetzread said:

Homework Statement


can someone explain about part b (tensile stress) here? in which way does the stress act?
You really can't look at figure E1.7 and puzzle this out?

The Attempt at a Solution


FromW wikipedia, tensile stress refres to the stress to break a rope...How does it related to the case above?

Well, can you break a rope by pushing the ends together?

Have you ever held the ends of a rope and pulled them apart?

This is stuff kids learn when they're about 8 years old.
 
SteamKing said:
You really can't look at figure E1.7 and puzzle this out?
Well, can you break a rope by pushing the ends together?

Have you ever held the ends of a rope and pulled them apart?

This is stuff kids learn when they're about 8 years old.
ok,it's pulling stress...
i don't understand the area 7.85(110-20), can you explain about it?
 
chetzread said:
ok,it's pulling stress...
i don't understand the area 7.85(110-20), can you explain about it?
You have to start at part a) of the problem. That's where the thickness of the plates is established (t = 7.85 mm)

The plate is 110 mm wide and has a 20-mm diameter rivet punched through the middle. What's the net width of material where the rivet is located?

These are fairly simple problems to figure out from the diagrams given. If you have this much difficulty now, it's not going to look good on any exams you'll have to take.
 
SteamKing said:
You have to start at part a) of the problem. That's where the thickness of the plates is established (t = 7.85 mm)

The plate is 110 mm wide and has a 20-mm diameter rivet punched through the middle. What's the net width of material where the rivet is located?

These are fairly simple problems to figure out from the diagrams given. If you have this much difficulty now, it's not going to look good on any exams you'll have to take.
i'm confused between tensile stress and bearing stress now, arent they the same?
 
chetzread said:

Homework Statement


can someone explain about part b (tensile stress) here? in which way does the stress act?

To answer your first question, simply the largest tensile stress can be found at the middle. Why? Because this is the part where most of the expansion takes place. You seem confused at this
chetzread said:
ok,it's pulling stress...
i don't understand the area 7.85(110-20), can you explain about it?

It's because the formula for area here is (d)(t) where d is diameter and t is thickness thus (110-20) for the remaining area and t is (20)
 
Justus said:
To answer your first question, simply the largest tensile stress can be found at the middle. Why? Because this is the part where most of the expansion takes place. You seem confused at thisIt's because the formula for area here is (d)(t) where d is diameter and t is thickness thus (110-20) for the remaining area and t is (20)
why
Because this is the part where most of the expansion takes place?
 
chetzread said:
i'm confused between tensile stress and bearing stress now, arent they the same?
If these two stresses were the same, there would be no need to call them by different names.

The bearing stress is created where the body of the rivet shank "bears" on the plate material.
 
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Say when you pull the two plates , where is the part the first to move ?
 
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Justus said:
Say when you pull the two plates , where is the part the first to move ?
the part closer to the force
 
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SteamKing said:
If these two stresses were the same, there would be no need to call them by different names.

The bearing stress is created where the body of the rivet shank "bears" on the plate material.
so, tensile stress is acted perpendicularly to the surface?
 
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chetzread said:
so, tensile stress is acted perpendicularly to the surface?
Depends on which surface you are taking about. Please be more specific and use dimensions if that helps.
 
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SteamKing said:
Depends on which surface you are taking about. Please be more specific and use dimensions if that helps.
i mean this. Force P is acting perpendicularly to cross section area = t(110-20), is it correct?
 

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chetzread said:
i mean this. Force P is acting perpendicularly to cross section area = t(110-20), is it correct?
Yes, that appears to be correct.
 
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