Tension of ropes when laying on a hammock

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The problem involves calculating the tension in the ropes of a hammock supporting a 50.0 kg person, with the ropes positioned at an angle of 15° above the horizontal. The discussion centers on the application of forces and trigonometric functions in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of sine and cosine functions in resolving forces, particularly questioning the choice between using Tsin(15°) and Tcos(15°) for calculating tension. There is an exploration of the coordinate system and how forces balance in the X and Y directions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on transposing equations to find tension, while others express uncertainty about their initial approaches. There is an acknowledgment of algebraic errors and a recognition of the need for clarity in applying trigonometric functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the correct application of trigonometric functions based on the angle of the ropes and the overall setup of the problem. There is a reference to an answer key that presents a specific tension value, which has led to further questioning of the methods used.

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Homework Statement



A 50.0 kg person takes a nap in a backyard hammock. Both ropes supporting the hammock are at an angle of 15° above the horizontal. Find the tension in the ropes.

Homework Equations



T=mg, F=ma, T= (Tcos15°)+(Tsin15°)


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was I started with X and Y coordinates and I figured the coordinates in the X direction would cancel out to be 0 because in one X direction it is positive and the other is negative so the total tension would be the tension in the y direction multiplied by two. What I did was I got the total tension as ƩF= 2Tsin15° which is nowhere near the correct answer in the answer key. The correct answer is 948N which would be the cos of 15 degrees and not the sin. I don't understand how you know which one to us because if the ropes are 15 degrees above the horizontal I figured the x coordinates would cancel out.
 
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Nathan777 said:

Homework Statement



A 50.0 kg person takes a nap in a backyard hammock. Both ropes supporting the hammock are at an angle of 15° above the horizontal. Find the tension in the ropes.

Homework Equations



T=mg, F=ma, T= (Tcos15°)+(Tsin15°)


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was I started with X and Y coordinates and I figured the coordinates in the X direction would cancel out to be 0 because in one X direction it is positive and the other is negative so the total tension would be the tension in the y direction multiplied by two. What I did was I got the total tension as ƩF= 2Tsin15° which is nowhere near the correct answer in the answer key. The correct answer is 948N which would be the cos of 15 degrees and not the sin. I don't understand how you know which one to us because if the ropes are 15 degrees above the horizontal I figured the x coordinates would cancel out.

What I did was I got the total tension as ƩF= 2Tsin15°

seems OK.

You do need to transpose to find T of course.

T = ƩF/2sin15° where ƩF is of course the weight of the person: 50*9.8
 
PeterO said:
What I did was I got the total tension as ƩF= 2Tsin15°

seems OK.

You do need to transpose to find T of course.

T = ƩF/2sin15° where ƩF is of course the weight of the person: 50*9.8

Thank you so much. I don't know where I went wrong with that one.
 
Nathan777 said:
Thank you so much. I don't know where I went wrong with that one.

Note that the first line of my previous post was a "cut and paste" from your original post, so you started out OK.
 
PeterO said:
Note that the first line of my previous post was a "cut and paste" from your original post, so you started out OK.

Yes but I figured out the answer with that specific equation. I guess I just didn't think of dividing it out. Error on basic Algebra.
 

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