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Hi Friends
I am reading the following paper
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9705122
In the page 4 he says that

[itex]\tilde{W}_{\mu\nu}=0\Rightarrow V_{\mu}=\partial_{\mu}\lambda[/itex]

Where [itex]\tilde{W}^{\mu\nu}\equiv\frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{\mu \nu\rho\sigma}W_{\rho\sigma}[/itex] and [itex]W_{\mu\nu}\equiv\partial_{[\mu}V_{\nu]}[/itex] and [itex]\epsilon[/itex] is antisymmetric Levi-Civita tensor.

The above expression is a general argument and it is not related to the paper. I can not understand how can we drive [itex]V_{\mu}=\partial_{\mu}\lambda[/itex] from [itex]\tilde{W}_{\mu\nu}=0[/itex]
Would someone please explain it for me
 
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Are you sure it doesn't say
[tex] \partial_{\nu} \tilde{W}^{\mu \nu} = 0[/tex]
?

EDIT:

Oh, sorry, I saw that there is a V and a W, and the W is the anti-symmetrized derivative.

Do you know Stokes' theorem in 4-dimensional space-time?
 
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Yes, I am sure. :( You can check it in the mentioned paper.
 
Unfortunately I do not know. Is it related to Stokes's theorem?
 
First of all, there is a one-to-one correspondence between [itex]\tilde{W}_{\mu \nu}[/itex], and [itex]W_{\mu \nu}[/itex]. You just showed how to find [itex]\tilde{W}[/itex] if you know W. But:
[tex] \epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \pi} \, \tilde{W}_{\rho \pi} = \frac{1}{2} \epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \pi} \, \epsilon_{\rho \pi \sigma \tau} \, W^{\sigma \tau} = -\left(\delta^{\mu}_{\sigma} \, \delta^{\nu}_{\tau} - \delta^{\mu}_{\tau} \, \delta^{\nu}_{\sigma} \right) \, W^{\sigma \tau} = -W^{\mu \nu} + W^{\nu \mu} = -2 \, W^{\mu \nu}[/tex]
[tex] W^{\mu \nu} = -\frac{1}{2} \, \epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \pi} \, \tilde{W}_{\rho \pi}[/tex]

Therefore, if you say [itex]\tilde{W}_{\mu \nu} = 0[/itex], then, so is [itex]W_{\mu \nu} = 0[/itex].
 
Then, you will have:
[tex] \partial_{\mu} V_{\nu} - \partial_{\nu} V_{\mu} = 0[/tex]

Integrate this over an arbitrary 2-dimensional surface with an element [itex]df^{\mu \nu} = -df^{\nu \mu}[/itex], and convert it to a line integral over the boundary of the surface. You should get:
[tex] \oint{V_{\mu} \, dx^{\mu}} = 0[/tex]

Do you know what this means?
 
Thanks! Now I got it. When [itex]W_{\mu \nu} =0[/itex] means [itex]\partial_\mu V_{\nu} -\partial_{\nu}V_{\mu}=0[/itex]. So for having this expression we must suppose that [itex]V_{\mu} =\partial_\mu\lambda[/itex] where [itex]\lambda[/itex] is a scalar. Because we can change order of derivations [itex]\partial_{\mu}, \partial_{\nu}[/itex]. Is it correct?
 
Would you please explain more about the integral? It seems interesting.
 
vnikoofard said:
Thanks! Now I got it. When [itex]W_{\mu \nu} =0[/itex] means [itex]\partial_\mu V_{\nu} -\partial_{\nu}V_{\mu}=0[/itex]. So for having this expression we must suppose that [itex]V_{\mu} =\partial_\mu\lambda[/itex] where [itex]\lambda[/itex] is a scalar. Because we can change order of derivations [itex]\partial_{\mu}, \partial_{\nu}[/itex]. Is it correct?

No, what you are proving is that [itex]W_{\mu \nu} = 0[/itex] is a necessary condition for [itex]V_{\mu} = \partial_{\mu} \lambda[/itex], which I though is trivial to show (because derivatives commute). But, I was trying to point out that it is also a sufficient condition. Well, locally at least (see Poincare's Lemma).
 
Dear Dickfore, I am really poor on Topology and such kinds of mathematics. Recently I decided to begin studying this topics. Can you please suggest me some good textbooks for self-study. I am thinking about 3rd edition of Frankle's book: "Geometry of Physics".
 
i don't know what to recommend, sorry.
 
Thank you again for your help, my friend!