Testing the Magnetism of a Solenoid & Galvanometer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a solenoid connected to a galvanometer when subjected to two magnets moving towards it. Participants explore the implications of the magnetic field interactions and the resulting current in the galvanometer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant predicts that no current will be shown in the galvanometer due to the arrangement of the magnets, suggesting that the N poles on both sides of the solenoid cannot oppose the motion.
  • Another participant points out a contradiction in the initial description of the magnet arrangement, prompting a clarification.
  • The original poster later clarifies the arrangement of the magnets, confirming that the N pole of the second magnet is indeed nearer to the solenoid.
  • A different participant agrees with the prediction of no current, stating that the two magnets induce exactly opposing currents that cancel each other out.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement on the prediction of no current in the galvanometer, but the reasoning behind this prediction is contested, with different interpretations of the magnetic interactions at play.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of magnetic fields and the conditions under which the solenoid detects changes in magnetic flux, which remain unresolved.

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suppose you have a solenoid with hollow core connected to a galvanometer.

On one side you have a S-N magnet (ie. the N pole is nearer to the solenoid). On the other side you have a N-S magnet( ie. S pole is nearer to solenoid). ie.

[S - N] [Solenoid] [N - S]

Both magnets are equidistant from the solenoid, and at a distance sufficient for the solenoid to "detect" the magnetic field.

They start moving towards each other at the same speed into the solenoid core and stop at the same time.

My prediction is that there will be absolutely no current shown in the galvanometer. This is because it is impossible to have N poles on both sides of the solenoid to oppose the motion.

As this topic is new to me, is my prediction correct?
 
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handsomecat said:
On one side you have a S-N magnet (ie. the N pole is nearer to the solenoid). On the other side you have a N-S magnet( ie. S pole is nearer to solenoid). ie.

[S - N] [Solenoid] [N - S]

You have a contradition between your text and your graph that you might want to clear-up.
 
Apologies. It should read:

On one side you have a S-N magnet (ie. the N pole is nearer to the solenoid). On the other side you have a N-S magnet( ie. N pole is nearer to solenoid). ie.

[S - N] [Solenoid] [N - S]
 
handsomecat said:
My prediction is that there will be absolutely no current shown in the galvanometer. This is because it is impossible to have N poles on both sides of the solenoid to oppose the motion.

It is true that you will register no current. The reason is that the two magnets induce exactly opposing currents, which cancel.
 

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