The distance (not horizontal nor vertical) of a rock traveled in a projectile

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The discussion revolves around deriving the distance a rock travels after being kicked horizontally from a vertical cliff. The key equations involve the vertical motion described by y = -gt^2/2 and the horizontal motion x = v0t. The integral for the distance traveled is complex, involving the integration of the arc length formula and substitutions related to the parameters of the problem. The final derived distance is expressed as hd/3, although there is confusion regarding the units of this result. The participants emphasize the need for clarity in the integration process and the relationship between the variables involved.
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Homework Statement


A small rock of mass m is kicked from the edge of a perfectly vertical cliff of height h, giving
it an initial velocity ~vo that’s purely horizontal. The rock lands at a distance d away from
the bottom of the cliff. The ground there is assumed horizontal and we neglect air resistance.
Derive the distance traveled by the rock in terms of h and d only.


Homework Equations


(h) y=-gt^2/2
(d) x=v0t
Using the two parametric equations above and the arc length formula for parametric equations.
Integrate[Sqrt[(y')^2+(x')^2],t,0,x/v0]

The Attempt at a Solution


We could not solve the integral
and the professor did not allow us to have vo and t in the final answer!

Help...it's due tmr...
 
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Distance traveled = Integration(v*dt) = Int[sqrt{(gt)^2 + vo^2}]*dt
s = Int[vo*sqrt{(gt/vo)^2 + 1}]*dt = vo*Int.[sqrt{(gt/vo)^2 + 1}]*dt
Let gt/vo = 2*1/2*gt^2/vo*t = 2h/d = tan(theta)
(g/vo)*dt = sec^2(theta)*d(theta) and dt = [sec^2(theta)*d(theta)]vo/g. Substitute in s, we get
s = (vo^2/g)*Int[sec^3(theta)*d(theta). If you solve this by integration by parts, we get
s = (d^2/4h)*[sqrt{1 + 4h^2/d^2}*2h/d + log(sqrt{1 + 4h^2/d^2}+2h/d )]
 
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rl.bhat said:
Distance traveled = Integration(y*dx) = Int(gt^2/2)*dx
x=v0t. Hence t = x/vo. Put it in the above integration.
Integration(y*dx) = Int(gt^2/2)*dx = Int(g*x^2/2vo^2)*dx = g*x^3/6vo^2.
Put vo^2 = x^2/t^2 in g*x^3/6vo^2. It becomes g*t^2*x^3/6x^2.But g*t^2 = 2y
So the distance traveled = 2yx/6 = hd/3

So the distance traveled has units of length^2 ?

It seems that the OP is looking for the arc-length along a segment of a parabola.
Can you write the integrand in simplest form?
 
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Distance traveled = Integration(v*dt) = Int[sqrt{(gt)^2 + vo^2}]*dt
s = Int[vo*sqrt{(gt/vo)^2 + 1}]*dt = vo*Int.[sqrt{(gt/vo)^2 + 1}]*dt
Let gt/vo = 2*1/2*gt^2/vo*t = 2h/d = tan(theta)
(g/vo)*dt = sec^2(theta)*d(theta) and dt = [sec^2(theta)*d(theta)]vo/g. Substitute in s, we get
s = (vo^2/g)*Int[sec^3(theta)*d(theta). If you solve this by integration by parts, we get
s = (d^2/4h)*[sqrt{1 + 4h^2/d^2}*2h/d + log(sqrt{1 + 4h^2/d^2}+2h/d )]
 
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