The force between two conductors (Duffin)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the derivation of the force between two conductors as presented in Duffin's electricity and magnetism textbook. The key point of confusion is the treatment of voltage (V) as both changing and constant in different parts of the derivation, leading to questions about the accuracy of the equations presented. The user proposes an alternative formulation for the change in electrical energy (dU) that resolves the inconsistencies and yields the correct negative sign for the force. Ultimately, the user feels they have solved the problem and seeks validation for their understanding. The discussion highlights the complexities involved in deriving relationships in electromagnetism.
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Homework Statement


I have been reading electricity and magnetism by Duffin in order to understand my first year EM course. So far it has been straightforward- however, I've hit a wall when it derives the force between 2 conductors (p.117 section 5.7 if you have the book!). The book says:


Homework Equations


Force along x = - dU/dx with Q held constant, where U=electrical energy stored(I accept this)

Elementary increment dU= 0.5QdV (i accept)
=0.5 Q^2 * d(1/c) (I accept)
=-0.5 V^2 * dC.

This I do not accept, as in the first equality, it implies V is changing (dV) yet in the last equality V is constant? I'm also unsure as to where the minus sign cam from but I assume it was a misprint.


The Attempt at a Solution



The only answer I can come up with is that the equation was meant to be
dU= 0.5 d[ V^2 * C]. But if I use this for the example of a parallel plate capacitor I get a sign error.

Please help!
 
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I think I solved the problem- when you consider dU as 0.5 *d(V^2 * C), this is equal to

0.5 * (V + dV)^2 * (C + dC) - 0.5*V^2 * C, which by using dv/dc= -Q/(C^2) leaads to the answer given. And pleasingly it gave me that annoying negative sign :)

I would still like a pat on the back though.
 
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