The gravitational field g due to a point

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational field g due to a point mass using Gauss' law. Participants explore the correct application of the gravitational force equation and the implications of using a fraction of the planet's mass when calculating g at R/2. The importance of understanding the distribution of mass within the planet is emphasized, as well as the need to correctly define the Gaussian surface for the calculation. Confusion arises regarding the use of volume and mass ratios, leading to questions about the proper mass to use in the equations. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of applying Gauss' law to gravitational fields, particularly within a planet's interior.
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The gravitational field g due to a point mass M may be obtained by analogy with the electric field by writing an expression for the gravitational force on a test mass, and dividing by the magnitude of the test mass, m. Show that Gauss' law for the gravitational field reads:

phi = oint g*dA=-4*pi*GM

where G is the gravitational constant.


Use this result to calculate the gravitational acceleration g at a distance of R/2 from the center of a planet of radius R = 6.15 x 1006 m and M = 4.25 x 1024 kg.

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Hi, I got the final equation to be g= G M / r^2. My final result was -29.9 m/s^2. But that's not correct. I don't see what i did wrong. Anyone has any ideas?
 
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That equation is correct outside the planet. But you need the acceleration at R/2 from the center.
 
does that mean i would have to take a fraction of the mass, because of the radius?
 
BadSkittles said:
does that mean i would have to take a fraction of the mass, because of the radius?

It probably does, but then you need to know the distribution of mass inside the planet.
 
I tried to divide the mass by 2, and the answer is still wrong. Do you know any way to solve this problem T-T
 
Why would you divide the mass by 2, and not by 123, for example? How did you use Gauss's law to obtain the equation?
 
I got g * Integral of dA = -4*pi G*M

g * 4 * pi * r^2= -4* pi* G*M

g= - GM/ r^2

Maybe the integral of dA is something else?
 
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First of all, what is ## \int dA ## if you are asked for ##g## at ##R/2##?

Second, what is ##M## in this case?
 
∫ dA is your gaussian surface. Would that be 4/3 pi r^3 ? Since our radius is shortened. M is the Mass of the whole planet.
 
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BadSkittles said:
∫ dA is your gaussian surface.

And what is the surface here?

M is the Mass of the whole planet.

Even including that outside the surface?
 
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So the gaussian surface is 4 pi r^2 still, but the mass is a ratio between V and m?
 
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BadSkittles said:
So the gaussian surface is 4 pi r^2 still

You did not answer the question. Explain the shape of the surface, and then what its area is.

but the mass is a ratio between V and m?

Assuming V is volume and m is mass, how can mass be a ratio between volume and mass? That is dimensionally impossible.
 
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I think its m = M ( r^3/ R^3)
 
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R is the radius of the planet, and M is its mass. What are r and m?
 
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