The kinetic energy formula for lagrange doesnt make sense

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The discussion centers on confusion regarding the kinetic energy formula in the context of a pendulum, specifically how kinetic energy is calculated using both x and y components of velocity. The original poster questions the validity of adding the kinetic energies of the x and y components, noting that the total kinetic energy for a straight-line motion does not equal the sum of the kinetic energies of its components. However, they later realize that the kinetic energy formula allows for the addition of squared components due to the Pythagorean theorem, where the total velocity squared is equal to the sum of the squares of its components. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding vector components in physics. Ultimately, the poster acknowledges their initial misunderstanding and clarifies their thoughts on the formula.
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Homework Statement


This is a real basic question I am sure. Maybe I just missed something.
so in the book, t = the kinetic energy . only for a pendulum, they add kinetic energy of x dot squared, plus kinetic energy of y dot squared.

Homework Equations


T = 1/2 m v^2
a^2 + b^2 = c^2

The Attempt at a Solution


This doesn't make sense. At first I thought maybe they were splitting velocity into x and y components.
but T(velocity) is not equal to T(x component of velocity) + T(y component of velocity). if I am traveling in a straight line at 5 m/s, 1/2m(5)^2 is not equal to 1/2m(3)^2 + 1/2m(4)^2. what is the xdot and ydot a measure of
 
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grandpa2390 said:
1/2m(5)^2 is not equal to 1/2m(3)^2 + 1/2m(4)^2
Are you a betting man?
 
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haruspex said:
Are you a betting man?
No I am not. And I get the feeling you are about to tell me that it's a good thing. lol because 3^2 +4^2 does equal 5^2 ... this is what I get for forcing myself out of bed to study... sry for the inconvenience. It made sense earlier when I was awake. Then I take a nap. force myself up, and I am writing a formula that says exactly what I said wasn't making sense. lol.

They only hope I have to hold onto is that my professor says that you aren't a physicist unless you occasionally write something stupid.

edit: I know what i was thinking. the variable itself v being plugged in, and then just replacing it with components added. x and y. 3 + 4 != 5 but i guess that's why v is squared in kinetic energy. so that the kinetic energy of components can be added. you can't say .5m(x+y)^2 but u can say the other
 
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