What is the Limit of the Integral in the Small x Regime for y approaching 1?

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The discussion revolves around calculating a complex integral in the limit as y approaches 1, specifically in the small x regime where x is positive but much less than 1. The contributor expresses uncertainty about neglecting oscillatory sine and cosine terms, which their professor argues cannot be dismissed due to the presence of a pole as x approaches 0. The contributor seeks a rigorous mathematical approach to clarify their reasoning and address the professor's concerns. Suggestions include using trigonometric identities to simplify the terms involved. The conversation highlights the challenges of handling integrals with divergent components and the need for careful analysis in mathematical treatments.
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Dear all,
I want to calculate the following integral

<br /> \int_{-\infty}^0 dk \frac{k\left(\frac{k^2-m^2}{k}\cos\frac{2(x M - k)c_0}{m y} + m\sin\frac{2(x M - k)c_0}{m y} + \frac{k^2+m^2}{2k}\right)}{\sinh^2\frac{(x M - k)\pi}{2my}((k^2 - m^2)^2 + 4 k^2 m^2 y^2)}<br />

in the limit y\to 1 to examine the small x regime (x > 0, x << 1). However, c_0 is given by

<br /> c_0 = \frac{1}{2}\operatorname{arctanh}y<br />

so it diverges in the limit y\to 1. But then I would state that we may neglect the cosine and sine terms since they oscillate so rapidly that there contribution to the integral vanishes. My professor however, with whom I discussed this matter, says I am not eligible to do that since I want to examine the low-x regime where I get a pole in the limit x\to 0. Than my arguing would not be true.

I told him I would try to give this one a rigourious mathematical treatment. But then 1) I can't see what is wrong with my arguments since I am not examing x = 0 but only small but non-zero x where there is no pole and 2) it looks so obvious to me that I don't really know how to treat this on solid mathematical grounds.

Thats why I would really appreciate a discussion about this integral in the limit y\to 1. Hopefully some of you has some idea how to treat this.

A big thanks in advance!
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Yowzers, quite an integral.

If you're assuming small x...

Mx-k == -kAs long as Mx <<< k
 
I don't know if it would help any, but you could combine the cosine and sine using the identity

A\cos\phi + B\sin\phi = \sqrt{A^2 + B^2}\sin\left(\phi + \tan^{-1}\left(\frac{A}{B}\right)\right)

(note: if A/B < 0, then a phase factor of pi must be added)
 
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