The magnetic field within cylindrical hollow conductor

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The discussion centers on the behavior of the magnetic field in a cylindrical hollow conductor, particularly in relation to coaxial cables. It highlights that while the magnetic field from the inner conductor can penetrate the hollow conductor, the boundary conditions dictate that the tangential component of the magnetic field (Ht) and the normal component (Hn) are zero inside a perfect conductor. Participants debate the literature's stance on whether the magnetic field is zero inside a perfect conductor, with references made to established texts and the Meissner effect in superconductivity. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on the boundary conditions at the interface of dielectric and perfect conductors. Overall, the discussion seeks to reconcile theoretical principles with practical observations in electromagnetic theory.
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Hi,
While studying the coaxial cable, i noticed that the magnetic field of the inner conductor can pass through the hollow conductor (can be calculated in the region 3). However, the boundary condition of the magnetic field at the surface (between dielectric and perfect conductor) of a perfect conductor is known as the tangential component of H (Ht = Js surface current density) and the normal component is Hn = 0. Inside the perfect conductor, we have Ht = 0 and Hn = 0.

So why do we superpose the magnetic field of the inner conductor and the hollow conductor when calculating the magnetic field in the region 3 ?

In this case we suppose that the current flowing in the inner conductor is i1 and in the hollow conductor is i2 (not like the coax,here i2 is not equal to -i1).

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Thank you in advance.
 
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nabil25 said:
Inside the perfect conductor, we have Ht = 0 and Hn = 0.
What makes you say this?
 
kuruman said:
What makes you say this?
According to the literature, it's the boundary condition of the magnetic field at the interface of dielectric-perfect conductor.
 
The literature does not say that the H-field is zero inside the conductor. What does the literature say?
 
kuruman said:
The literature does not say that the H-field is zero inside the conductor. What does the literature say?
The litterature say that the magnetic field inside a perfect conductor is equal to zero. If it's not a perfect conductor, the magnetic field will penetrate until the skin depth.
 
nabil25 said:
The litterature say that the magnetic field inside a perfect conductor is equal to zero. If it's not a perfect conductor, the magnetic field will penetrate until the skin depth.
"The second type of interface discussed here is that between a perfect dielectric and a perfect conductor. In this case, the
overriding condition is that of the conductor, that is, that all fields in the perfect conductor must be zero. Assuming material
(2) is the perfect conductor, E2t, H2t, D2n, and B2n are zero"
 
nabil25 said:
"The second type of interface discussed here is that between a perfect dielectric and a perfect conductor. In this case, the
overriding condition is that of the conductor, that is, that all fields in the perfect conductor must be zero. Assuming material
(2) is the perfect conductor, E2t, H2t, D2n, and B2n are zero"
Can you reference where that comes from? One would expect it would be explained somehow there.
 
DarkBabylon said:
Can you reference where that comes from? One would expect it would be explained somehow there.
ebook (Engineering electromagnetics) Nathan Ida. third edition. page 581. there is a lot of references that say the same thing.
 
Well, at this page are only the usual boundary conditions for the electromagnetic field components but no such claim. Perhaps you are referring to the Meissner-Ochsenfeld effect in superconductivity? Then have a look at Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
 
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