The Physics Behind Fanning The Flames ?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the physics behind why blowing on a fire may make it burn better. The main reason is that blowing on a fire helps to increase the reaction rate of the fire, causing oxygen to combine with carbon and hydrogen at a faster rate. This is because blowing on the fire helps to get air to the fuel, which in turn displaces combustion products that interfere with the combustion process. The conversation also mentions the breakdown of wood fibers and the presence of flammable compounds, such as resins, in wood that contribute to the combustion process.
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The Physics Behind "Fanning The Flames"?

So no one in class knew the answer and, of course, I don't know the answer (that's why I come to the geniuses on this board) :smile:. The question was:

Explain why blowing on a fire may make it burn better.


I'm pretty sure it has something to do with increasing the reaction rate of the fire so that oxygen combines with carbon and hydrogen at a greater rate. But why does blowing on a fire cause this to happen? This is where I'm stuck. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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I usually associate it with getting the air (oxidant) to the fuel (wood, coal, etc). The air displaces the combustion products like CO and CO2 which interfere with the combustion process.

Edit: Some matters Erwin Schrodinger and I discussed by PM.

Blowing the ash away would help, but getting the air to the fuel is what increases combustion. CO forms when insufficient oxygen is present, and CO2, carbon dioxide is the more stable compound forms when oxygen is abundant. CO, carbon monoxide and CO2 are gases. The ash is the non-combustable residue including oxides and carbonates of metals like potassium, magnesium, calcium, etc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_(analytical_chemistry) , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire) .


In wood, the heat breaks down the wood fiber or cellulose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose) by pyrolytic decomposition, and in some cases, the wood may contain flammable compounds like pine pitch or resins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin) , some of which contain terpenes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene) . The are complex hydrocarbons and can burn directly or are broken down. Air combines with hydrocarbons (C, H) and forms CO, CO2, and H2O.

See also - http://www.iit.edu/~smile/ch96m3.html
http://www.iit.edu/~smart/pawebar/lesson3.html
 
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I can provide a response to the question of why blowing on a fire may make it burn better. The phenomenon of fanning the flames is based on the principles of fluid dynamics and heat transfer.

When we blow on a fire, we are essentially increasing the flow of air towards the fire. This causes the fire to receive a greater supply of oxygen, which is necessary for combustion to occur. Oxygen is one of the reactants in the fire triangle, along with heat and fuel. By increasing the supply of oxygen, we are essentially increasing the reaction rate of the fire.

In addition to increasing the supply of oxygen, blowing on a fire also helps to remove the products of combustion, such as carbon dioxide and water vapor. These products can form a layer around the fire, hindering the supply of oxygen and slowing down the reaction rate. By blowing on the fire, we are removing this layer and allowing fresh oxygen to reach the fire, promoting a more efficient and intense burn.

Furthermore, blowing on a fire also helps to increase the transfer of heat from the fire to its surroundings. When we blow on a fire, we are essentially increasing the velocity of the air around the fire. This causes the fire to release more heat into the surrounding air, creating a feedback loop where the fire receives more oxygen and fuel, leading to a more intense burn.

In conclusion, the physics behind fanning the flames can be explained by the principles of fluid dynamics and heat transfer. By increasing the supply of oxygen, removing the products of combustion, and promoting heat transfer, blowing on a fire can make it burn better.
 

1. What is the science behind fanning a flame?

The science behind fanning a flame involves the principles of convection and combustion. When air molecules move faster, they have more energy, causing them to spread out and become less dense. This creates a lower pressure area, which causes the surrounding air to move towards it. As a result, the flame is supplied with more oxygen, causing it to burn brighter and hotter.

2. Why does fanning a flame make it burn hotter?

Fanning a flame introduces more oxygen to the fire, which is necessary for combustion to occur. When there is more oxygen present, the fuel in the flame can burn more efficiently, producing a higher temperature and brighter flame. Additionally, the motion of the fan increases the rate of convection, allowing for more air to reach the flame and fuel it.

3. Can fanning a flame make it burn out faster?

Yes, fanning a flame can make it burn out faster if done improperly. If the fan is too close to the flame or if it is fanned too vigorously, it can disrupt the balance of oxygen and fuel needed for combustion. This can cause the flame to consume all of its fuel before it has a chance to replenish, resulting in a shorter burn time.

4. Is there a limit to how much fanning can increase the temperature of a flame?

Yes, there is a limit to how much fanning can increase the temperature of a flame. The amount of oxygen available and the rate of convection are key factors in determining how hot a flame can burn. Once the maximum amount of oxygen is reached and the convection rate is at its peak, any additional fanning will not significantly increase the temperature of the flame.

5. Can fanning a flame be dangerous?

Fanning a flame can be dangerous if not done carefully. It is important to keep the fan a safe distance from the flame to avoid any potential burns. Additionally, fanning a flame in a closed or poorly ventilated space can increase the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It is important to use caution and good judgement when fanning a flame to avoid any potential dangers.

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