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Actually, since this one incident on the other side of the world was notable enough to start a thread about, this thread tends to show that they are rare, doesn't it?
To clarify, again, I heard mention of this matter several days ago, in a topical news program within a much larger discussion context concerning human rights, police powers, etc. This incident was only one of many discussed. It was hardly Earth shattering news (it occurred in August if I recall ?). Having a passing interest in human rights, and wishing to discuss it with some intelligent people, and more to the point, Americans, since it happened in America, and recalling that similar issues are sometimes discussed here, I decided to start this thread.
Really? What if the rate of unjustified shootings is actually decreasing - would it still signal the demise of society?
That's not quite what I said. I said;
“I do believe the shooting event here, and acquiescence to it such as you suggest, contributes to a societies demise”
To answer your question, and to state the obvious, yes, if the degree of unjustified shootings is actually decreasing, that would be a good thing for society - less contribution to any demise, rather than more.
And you're backing away from what you said before.
I don’t think so - What ?
but were you just joking when you said "shaken to the core"?
Is this something to joke about ? A man chases another down the street and in a few seconds shoots him dead through his side for no good reason. Contemplation of such a thing would shake some people to the core - and more so if the killer was a cop.
You still posted this thread, alt.
Yes, I did, Russ.
Exactly. That's why I expressed confusion about the logic behind this thread. Since there are millions of police officers out there, one should be able to accept that every now and then there will be an unjustified shooting. But on the othere hand, it would appear that they are so rare that this one made news from the other side of the world. In my mind, that means that means they aren't significant enough in the grand scheme of things to be that much of a societal problem.
Aside from your ‘confusion’ about this thread, which I hope I’ve addressed earlier, yes, there are millions of police officers out there. We occasionally are shocked at the actions of one of them, and say so.
So three police shootings in three decades have caused you significant concern about the demise of society? Really?
Is that what you think I’ve said ? That’s really taking me out of context. I was making the point that out of a multitude of police shootings over several decades, I’ve been involved in argument against three of them. OTOH, I’ve been involved in many more arguments expressing support for police, armed forces, rule of law, etc.
C'mon alt, I know you know that's not what I meant: in any sameple of a million normal humans you are likely to get a handful of murderers. This should be obvious.
C’mon on Russ - I know cops are human, just as you know Nazis are human. Now you’re making another obvious statement, that causes us to write more on things obvious . Yes, in a sample of millions of normal humans some are going to be murderers, and some of those are going to be cops. In the same sample of millions of humans, some are going to be outraged and shaken to the core about such a thing.
I recon that you're wrong about that. To be that distressed about such a rare event requires one have a lack of distress about more common and therefore more personally relevant events. That's irrational.
I have no idea what you just said.