The title would be Understanding Integrals: A Basic Breakdown

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The original poster seeks a basic understanding of integrals, expressing confusion about the equations applicable to different parts of the topic. The discussion revolves around the foundational concepts of integrals and their relationship to derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of integrals as anti-derivatives and the importance of boundary conditions for definite integrals. Some question the effectiveness of introductory tutorials compared to textbooks. Others inquire about specific difficulties faced by the original poster, particularly regarding the recognition of when to use different integration techniques.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing informal references and suggesting resources for further learning. There is acknowledgment of the challenges faced by learners and a recognition that practice is essential for mastering integration techniques.

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Participants note that the original poster may be referring to existing tutorials and resources, which some feel do not adequately address the complexities of the topic. There is a suggestion that a moderate level of mathematical knowledge is assumed in these resources.

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Can someone give me a very basic breakdown of integrals i read the manual in the tutorials sections and i just don't understand what equations have to be used for each part.

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The integral is the anti-derivative of a function. The derivative of 2x would be 2. Then the anti-derivative (integral) of 2 would be 2x + C where C = 0. (boundary or initial conditions have to be told to you for definite integrals).
 
No offence to any of the authors, but those introductory tutorials are really no where near as good as a proper introduction to these concepts found in decent textbooks. There are no quick fixes.
 
I take it that was mine. That was meant as an informal reference and not something to be learned from by itself. It does assume a moderate standard of mathematical knowledge before hand.

If you could define what is troubling you exactly it might be easier to help. Specifically, what do you mean by 'what equations have to be used for each part'? If you're asking how do you recognise when to use integration by substitution over integration by parts then the answer is it just takes practise. Do as many problems as possible and you will soon recognise when one technique will work over another.
 
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Kurdt said:
I take it that was mine. That was meant as an informal reference and not something to be learned from by itself. it does assume a moderate standard of mathematical knowledge before hand.

Yes I did mean yours Kurdt =] And yes I knew myself that you meant it as an informal reference, but many students look for things like this expecting to see a quick route to understanding that they just won't get with that sort of attitude. Your contribution, however, fulfills its intended purposely excellently, i have nothing to lower it =].
 
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Schrödinger's Dog said:
Aren't there some excellent tutorials on integrals in the Learning & resources/ er forget the name section hold on Maths and science learning materials?

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=213784

Nicely done Kurdt very well presented.

I think that's perhaps the 'manual' the OP was referring to.
 
Kurdt said:
I think that's perhaps the 'manual' the OP was referring to.

I know, thus the edit. :smile:

Thats' what happens when you read only the op post, and then the rest in reverse order. :biggrin:
 

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