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WHat is the worst and formidable disease ever in human history? Why?
Ivan Seeking said:Addiction
As near as I can tell, malaria kills about 1 million people a year; alcohol kills about 1.8 million; tobacco kills about 4 million each year, worldwide.
Ivan Seeking said:What is funny about that? In the US, at least, addiction is considered to be a disease.
Moonbear said:I suspect the OP is referring to infectious disease (i.e. caused by a pathogen), rather than disorders, which technically aren't disease, but are still medical conditions. In common usage, the two are often used synonymously, but in medicine, disease would mean something different from a disorder. The OP will need to clarify on that point.
http://www.slate.com/id/2171131/nav/tap3/...As a psychiatrist who treats heroin addicts and a psychologist long interested in the philosophical meaning of disease, we have chafed at the "brain disease" rhetoric since it was first promulgated by NIDA in 1995. Granted, the rationale behind it is well-intentioned. Nevertheless, we believe that the brain disease concept is bad for the public's mental health literacy.[continued]
http://time-blog.com/eye_on_science/2007/07/addiction_is_not_a_disease.htmlThis clueless pair doesn't argue that the neurochemistry of an addict's brain is no different from that of a non-addict. They can't, because it demonstrably is. Instead, they offer gems of wisdom like this:
"Characterizing addiction as a brain disease misappropriates language more properly used to describe conditions such as multiple sclerosis or schizophrenia—afflictions that are neither brought on by sufferers themselves nor modifiable by their desire to be well."
This presumes that there's no underlying neurological basis that predisposes someone to addiction. Those who actually know something about it know this is a false presumption. Addiction, as Satel and Lilienfeld have somehow failed to learn, is not simply the behavior of abusing drugs—if it were, then all of the college students who drink too much would be alcoholics. Most aren't; they grow out of it.
Addiction is actually a disorder in which the brain's reward system is conditioned to value the reward of getting high over pretty much anything else. It's a disorder, in other words, in which the brain is malfunctioning. [continued]
A new bill sponsored by Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., would change the name of the National Institute on Drug Abuse to the National Institute on Diseases of Addiction and change the name of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism to the National Institute on Alcohol Disorders and Health. Called the Recognizing Addiction As a Disease Act of 2007, it explains, "The pejorative term 'abuse' used in connection with diseases of addiction has the adverse effect of increasing social stigma and personal shame, both of which are so often barriers to an individual's decision to seek treatment." Addiction should be known as a brain disease, the bill proclaims, "because drugs change the brain's structure and manner in which it functions. These brain changes can be long lasting, and can lead to the harmful behaviors seen in people who abuse drugs."
Ivan Seeking said:I knew that this wasn't just a casual reference so I checked. It seems that the National Institute on Drug Abuse are the ones who promoted the idea that addiction is a disease of the brain - I think along the lines of a genetic disease. But that idea is losing favor.
http://www.slate.com/id/2171131/nav/tap3/
Also, this, which is a reply to the article above:
http://time-blog.com/eye_on_science/2007/07/addiction_is_not_a_disease.html
In the end it seems that this is a political issue as much as a medical one.
Again, from the first link:
Is diabetes a disease or a disorder?
mgb_phys said:According to the WHO - top 10 causes of death:
Developed countries:
Ischaemic heart disease 3,512,000
Stroke 3,346,000
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease 1,829,000
Lower respiratory infections 1,180,000
Lung cancer 938,000
Car accident 669,000
Stomach cancer 657,000
High blood pressure 635,000
Tuberculosis 571,000
Suicide 499,000
3rd world:
HIV-AIDS 2,678,000
Lower respiratory infections 2,643,000
Ischaemic heart disease 2,484,000
Diarrhea 1,793,000
Cerebrovascular disease 1,381,000
Childhood diseases 1,217,000
Malaria 1,103,000
Tuberculosis 1,021,000
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease 748,000
Measles 674,000
gravenewworld said:Smoking is still the #1 leading cause of preventable death world wide. Not obesity, not alcholism, not AIDS, not malaria, not TB, not obesity. SMOKING STILL #1.
Stupid.
The top 3 killers worldwide are
1.) heart disease
2.) stroke
3.) lung cancer.
Smoking contributes to ALL 3 of the top 3 killers worldwide.
henxan said:What is the problem with this.. We are running into some critical overpopulation problems now, what's the problem?
gravenewworld said:Smoking is still the #1 leading cause of preventable death world wide. Not obesity, not alcholism, not AIDS, not malaria, not TB, not obesity. SMOKING STILL #1.
NoTime said:I don't know about that obesity thing.
I read a comment in a research article that being 10lbs overweight was equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes a day in terms of health risk.
Last I checked the insurance companies docked you 5 years off your life expectancy.
So in terms of years of life lost it doesn't seem to be a big deal compared to something like malaria where children tend to be the victim.
gravenewworld said:PREVENTABLE death. It costs everyone money when it shouldn't.
henxan said:It costs everyone a lot of money? What is this, youre a greedy bastard?
So I have been told.Well, firstly, I would like to point out that you have what could be misinterpreted arrogant attitude.
You know what is also good for the economy? Consuming as much as possible. I guess we should continue to consume as much as possible regardless of the disastrous effects it may have on the environment.ctually Poland did a research on this subject, and wouldn't you know it, its actually good for the economy! People die earlier, ergo less expenses for treatment the elderly. This actually by a great deal outweighs the negative consequences you mentioned. Another extremely positive factor is the relative high taxes being put on tobacco sales. This depends on the individual countries, but for instance for Norway, which I come from, have put taxes in the range of several hundreds of percent on the tobacco.
Where did I ever mention the word 'ban' ? Get a friggin clue dude.Therefore, as a conclusion, there is no economic negative aspect to tobacco. If one is to state a reason for banning tobacco, it would be on a basis of telling people of how they should live their life. Like in a communistic system. Is that ok?
gravenewworld said:LOL, so what is better spending tons of filthy lucre on treating PREVENTABLE DISEASES or spending all of that money on AIDS research?
OmCheeto said:Most of the modern diseases affect mostly older people who would not have been alive at their age a couple of hundred years ago.
No AIDS is still transferable from non sexual contact.NoTime said:Lol. Preventable?
You could eliminate AIDS if everyone stopped having sex.
As an added benefit this would solve all enviromental problems in about 60 years.
You could solve the malaria problem just by moving all people out of the tropics.
You should read this book then that was published by MITPS: While I don't have any handy links I've seen other studies that indicate smokers die cheaper.
Even though Malaria in the US is rare (and considered to be eradicated in the US) there are still reported cases of Malaria infections from people who didn't even travel outside of the US.You could solve the malaria problem just by moving all people out of the tropics.
gravenewworld said:And all of those have an extremely good chance of having smoking as their hidden cause.
rainbow93 said:This list of the http://healthlifeandstuff.com/2009/11/the-10-worst-diseases-ever/" says Bubonic plague is the worst, as it killed 1/3 people in Europe at one point.
wildman said:I'm no expert on this subject but I would say smallpox. It killed 90% of the indigenous people in North and South America after Columbus arrived. Plus many people in Europe, Asia and Africa.
mgb_phys said:Alternatively a disease like malaria that killed a large proportion of people every year for the last million years is also a contender.
Dis Markers. 2009;26(5-6):265-71.
Prognostic biomarkers in individuals with prevalent coronary heart disease.
Halim SA, Newby LK.
Duke Clinical Research Institute, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, NC 27715-7969, USA.
Coronary disease is the leading killer of individuals worldwide and a leading cause of healthcare expenditure. On a global scale, ischemic heart disease kills over 6 million individuals each year and is projected by the World Health Organization to be the greatest single-disease cause of death worldwide by an increasing margin into 2030. Nearly 17 million Americans (7.6% of the population) have prevalent coronary heart disease, 8 million of whom have had a prior myocardial infarction. It is estimated that in 2009, 550,000 will die from coronary heart disease in the United States and that the direct and indirect costs from treating coronary heart disease will exceed $165 billion. Although patients with known coronary artery disease are among the highest risk patients for future cardiac events, not all patients with coronary disease will have an ischemic event (first or recurrent). Determining which of these patients will have an ischemic event is critical to the concept of personalized cardiovascular care. Increasingly, biomarkers that can be readily assayed from blood or other body fluids will be critical to risk stratification and effective application of secondary prevention strategies, just as they have played an increasingly prominent role in risk stratification of acute coronary syndrome patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
One stat I did find re the USA, 500 billion per annum direct and indirect costs, and that for EtOH alone!Morbidity and mortality attributable to alcohol, tobacco, and illicit drug use in Canada.
E Single, L Robson, J Rehm, X Xie and X Xi
Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse, University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
OBJECTIVES: This study estimated morbidity and mortality attributable to substance abuse in Canada. METHODS: Pooled estimates of relative risk were used to calculate etiologic fractions by age, gender, and province for 91 causes of disease or death attributable to alcohol, tobacco, or illicit drugs. RESULTS: There were 33,498 deaths and 208,095 hospitalizations attributed to tobacco, 6701 deaths and 86,076 hospitalizations due to alcohol, and 732 deaths and 7095 hospitalizations due to illicit drugs in 1992. CONCLUSIONS: Substance abuse exacts a considerable toll on Canadian society in terms of morbidity and mortality, accounting for 21% of deaths, 23% of years of potential life lost, and 8% of hospitalizations.
The malaria parasite is old, the family is possibly older than mosquitoes. It also infects a lot of other primates so it's a fair bet it infected early man as well.ViewsofMars said:I wasn't aware malaria has been around for the last million years. Source please. The History of Malaria, an Ancient Disease implies early mention of malaria in 2700BC.
mgb_phys said:The malaria parasite is old, the family is possibly older than mosquitoes. It also infects a lot of other primates so it's a fair bet it infected early man as well.
It also infects people on the african savanna, most more modern epidemic disease are water borne or transmitted from domesticated animals so need the start of cities to become a problem. Malaria was always present for as long as you care to define people as people.
It probably wasn't mentioned before the invention of writing and civilization in the 3rd millennia BC for the same reason that nothing else is!
History of Malaria Parasite And Its Global Spread
Time Line For Origin of Malaria
Half a billion years ago
Existence of pre-parasitic ancestor
150 million to 200 million years ago
Early Dipterans, ancestors of mosquitoes, appear
130 million years ago
Two-host life cycle in Dipterans and vertebrates evolves
130 million years ago
Divergence of the bird and mammalian malaria parasites
100 million years ago
Lineage of P. malariae, P. ovale, and P. vivax diverges
~5 million years ago
P. falciparum evolves
2-3 million years ago
Divergence of P. vivax from P. cynomolgi
4000-10000 years ago
Lethal strain of P. falciparum appears
4000-5000 years ago
Anophelines in Africa develop highly anthropophilic habits
Man and Malaria seem to have evolved together. It is believed that most, if not all, of today's populations of human malaria may have had their origin in West Africa (P. falciparum) and West and Central Africa (P. vivax) on the basis of the presence of homozygous alleles for hemoglobin C and RBC Duffy negativity that confer protection against P. falciparum and P. vivax respectively.
The ancestors of the malaria parasites have probably existed at least half a billion years ago. Molecular genetic evidence strongly suggests that the pre-parasitic ancestor for malaria parasite was a choroplast-containing, free-living protozoan which became adapted to live in the gut of a group of aquatic invertebrates. This single-celled organism probably had obligate sexual reproduction, within the midgut lumen of a host species. At some relatively early stage in their evolution, these "premalaria parasites" acquired an asexual, intracellular form of reproduction called schizogony and with this, the parasites greatly increased their proliferative potential. (This schizogony in the RBCs of humans causes the clinical manifestations of malaria). Among the invertebrates to which the ancestors of the malaria parasites became adapted were probably aquatic insect larvae, including those of early Dipterans, the taxonomic order to which mosquitoes and other blood-sucking flies belong. These insects first appeared around 150 million to 200 million years ago. During or following this period, certain lines of the ancestral malaria parasites achieved two-host life cycles which were adapted to the blood-feeding habits of the insect hosts. In the 150 million years since the appearance of the early Diptera, many different lines of malaria and malaria-like parasites evolved and radiated. The malaria parasites of humans evolved on this line with alternate cycles between human and the blood-feeding female Anopheles mosquito hosts. Fossil mosquitoes have been found in geological strata 30 million years old.
P. falciparum is found to be very closely related to a malaria parasites of chimpanzees, P. reichenowi and these two are more closely related to the malaria parasites of birds than to those of other mammals. The lineage of these parasites possibly occurred around 130 million years ago, nearly about the same time as the origin of the two-host life cycle involving blood-feeding Dipterans and land vertebrates. The separation of the lines that led to P. falciparum and P. reichenowi probably occurred only 4 million to 10 million years ago, overlapping the period in which the human line diverged from that of the African great apes. The modern, lethal strains of P. falciparum probably emerged about 4,000 years ago, after agriculture took roots in Africa.
P. malariae, P. ovale, and P. vivax diverged over 100 million years ago along the lineage of the mammalian malaria parasites. P. ovale is the the sole known surviving representative of its line and causes infection only in humans. P. malariae was a parasite of the ancestor of both humans and African great apes and had the ability to parasitize and cross-infect both host lineages as they diverged around five million years ago. P. malariae is found as a natural parasite of chimpanzees in West Africa and P. brazilianum that infects New World monkeys in Central and South America is morphologically indistinguishable from P. malariae. P. malariae, like P. ovale, is the only confirmed and extant representative of its line. P. vivax belongs to a group of malaria parasites like P. cynomolgi, that infect monkeys. The time of divergence of P. vivax from P. cynomolgi is put at 2-3 million years ago.
End of the last glacial period and warmer global climate heralded the beginnings of agriculture about 10000 years ago. It is argued that the entry of agricultural practice into Africa was pivotal to the subsequent evolution and history of human malaria. The Neolithic agrarian revolution, which is believed to have begun about 8,000 years ago in the "Fertile Crescent," southern Turkey and northeastern Iraq, reached the western and Central Africa around 4,000 to 5,000 years ago. This led to the adaptations in the Anopheles vectors of human malaria. The human populations in sub-Saharan Africa changed from a low-density and mobile hunting and gathering life-style to communal living in settlements cleared in the tropical forest. This new, man-made environment led to an increase in the numbers and densities of humans on the one hand and generated numerous small water collections close to the human habitations on the other. This led to an increase in the mosquito population and the mosquitoes in turn had large, stable, and accessible sources of blood in the human population, leading to very high anthropophily and great efficiency of the vectors of African malaria. Even though the practice of agriculture had developed throughout the tropics and subtropics of Asia and the Middle East up to several thousand years before those in Africa, simultaneous animal domestication in Asia probably prevented the mosquitoes from developing exclusive anthropophilic habits. In most parts of the world, the anthropophilic index (the probability of a blood meal being on a human) of the vectors of malaria is much less than 50% and often less than 10 to 20%, but in sub-Saharan Africa, it is 80 to almost 100%. This is probably the most important single factor responsible for the stability and intensity of malaria transmission in tropical Africa today.
http://www.malariasite.com/malaria/history_parasite.htm
It probably wasn't mentioned before the invention of writing and civilization in the 3rd millennia BC for the same reason that nothing else is!
denverdoc said:population numbers were virtually flat