Thermodynamics problem -- Water pumped into an enclosed tank....

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a pump to move water into a closed tank against a pressure of 0.9 MPa. The flow rate is given as 1 m³/min, and participants clarify the correct use of pressure units and the relevant equations for work. There is confusion about the terms in the equation w=dpdv, with suggestions that it should instead use the formula w=(p2-p1)(v2-v1) to calculate work based on pressure and volume changes. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the volume of water moved over time to determine the total work done. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in terminology and proper application of thermodynamic principles.
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Homework Statement


Q3.1 (a) A pump forces 1m^3 /min of water horizontally from an open well to a closed tank where the pressure is 0.9 Mpa.compute the work the pump must do upon the water in an hour just to force the water into the tank against the pressure.sketch the system upon which the work iss done before and after the process.

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here flow rate is 1m^3/min
p1=0.101325 pa
p2=0.9 pa
we don't know v.
but equation formed will be as:
w=dpdv
now I'm where i can get v.
 
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This is not a thermodynamics question. Titling it so may have deterred some potential responders.
Where you wrote pa in your attempted solution, I guess you meant MPa.
You don't need to know the velocity.
I don't understand your w=dpdv equation. Please explain the terms.
 
it's w=(p2-p1)(v2-v1)
 
it's w=(p2-p1)(v2-v1)
 
danny12345 said:
it's w=(p2-p1)(v2-v1)
I asked you to explain the terms. What are the v's? If they're velocities, and the p's are pressures, and w is work, then the equation is dimensionally wrong. If the v's are volumes then the dimensions work, but I don't see the relevance to problem. [And anyway, I think you would mean W= d(PV)=PdV+VdP.]
 
v=volume
 
danny12345 said:
v=volume
Ok.
You know the flow rate, and you know the time, so...
 
so what then?
 
danny12345 said:
so what then?
So you can find the volume.
 
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how?
 
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danny12345 said:
how?
danny12345 said:
A pump forces 1m^3 /min of water ... the work the pump must do upon the water in an hour...
A cubic metre of water per minute, for one hour, gives...?
 

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