Thermodynamics - vessel with gas is filled with more gas

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving a gas-filled vessel where air is pumped in, increasing both pressure and temperature. To solve the problem, the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) is essential for determining the initial and final number of moles of air in the vessel. Participants emphasize the need to calculate the mass of air at specified conditions and how to derive pressure after cooling the system back to 25 degrees Celsius. Key considerations include whether the system is closed or open and the importance of using absolute temperature. The conversation highlights the necessity of applying the ideal gas law multiple times to find the required values.
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A vessel of capacity 3m^3 contains air at a pressure of 1.5 bar and a temperature of 25 celcius. Additional air is now pumped into the system until the pressure rises to 30 bar and temperature rises to 60 celcius. Determine the mass of air and express the quantity as a volume at a pressure of 1.02 bar and a temperature of 20 celcius. If the vessel is allowed to cooled until the temperature is again 25 celcius, calculate the pressure in the vessel.

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I do not really know how to start to solve this question. Thanks in advance to those who can help me. Does the additional air pumped in considered as the heat pumped in? Furthermore, should I consider whether the system is closed or opened firstly?
 
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There are many levels at which this problem could be taken, and to work out which more context would be required (eg, super-compressibility any one?), but in simple terms it looks like PV=NRT is the equation required. One way of putting it is that (PV)/(NT) is constant, knowing this you can work out the impact on the fourth component of changing the other 3 of the components.

Remember that temperature above is absolute, not celcius.

You need to apply the equation a couple of times, and combine what you learned from the two applications.
 
frozen7 said:

Homework Statement


A vessel of capacity 3m^3 contains air at a pressure of 1.5 bar and a temperature of 25 celcius. Additional air is now pumped into the system until the pressure rises to 30 bar and temperature rises to 60 celcius. Determine the mass of air and express the quantity as a volume at a pressure of 1.02 bar and a temperature of 20 celcius. If the vessel is allowed to cooled until the temperature is again 25 celcius, calculate the pressure in the vessel.
Figure out the number of moles of air initially. This follows simply from the ideal gas law: PV=nRT. You know P, V and T, so you can get n.

The second part is the same thing: find n, (where the total number of moles is the sum of the original plus the added air).

The third part, you know n now so you just find P from n, V, T.

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