Is It Possible to Defy the Limits of Human Potential?

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The discussion centers on the concept of impossibility versus possibility, exploring various examples and philosophical implications. Participants debate the nature of impossible tasks, such as making someone love you or jumping to celestial bodies. They highlight that while many things are deemed impossible, the existence of possibilities often outweighs them. The conversation touches on logical negations, using the example of barbers and their ability to shave themselves, leading to deeper discussions about the nature of statements and their opposites. Humor is interspersed throughout, with light-hearted references to absurd scenarios and personal anecdotes, illustrating the complexity and subjective nature of defining impossibility. Ultimately, the thread emphasizes that while some things may seem impossible, everything has a probability of occurring, suggesting that nothing is truly impossible.
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How many can you think of like, its impossible to pull your self up by your shoe strings.
 
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Impossible to make someone love you
 
There's an infinite amount of things that are impossible. I could just say it's impossible to jump to mars, then say the same thing about every other planet, moon, star or chunk of ice or rock in the universe.
 
I've seen someone jump to the moon. However, a dinosaur with 15 horns is likely impossible.
 
cronxeh said:
Impossible to make someone love you
Actually, that's quiet easy. Many people are fake in order to get someone to fall in love with them, the problem is that they can't keep up the ruse forever.
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
I've seen someone jump to the moon. However, a dinosaur with 15 horns is likely impossible.

How about a cow with 2 horns, jumping over the moon?
 
lisab said:
How about a cow with 2 horns, jumping over the moon?
Timing is esential because, based on all pictures I've seen, it needs to be a crescent moon so that the cow doesn't have as much distance to travel.
 
And the cow could wait till after moon set.
 
Impossible also says I`m possible
 
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Ignoring friction.
 
  • #11
Pengwuino said:
Ignoring friction.

Pengwino not blowing a gasket while grading homework
 
  • #12
Pengwuino said:
Ignoring friction.

It's very easy to ignore friction. Doesn't mean it's not there of course.

There are more things that are possible than impossible: If X is impossible, then not X is possible (in fact necessary). On the other hand, if X is possible, not X might also be possible, so this is not an involution

The possibility hypothesis: Is the set of things that is possible the same cardinality as the set of things which is impossible, or are they different sizes? Alternatively, is this question unanswerable?
 
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Office_Shredder said:
There are more things that are possible than impossible: If X is impossible, then not X is possible (in fact necessary).
I think more things are impossible than possible. For instance, it is well know that barbers can't shave themselves nor can they fail to shave themselves.
 
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While I can't say that it's absolutely impossible, I've had no success whatsoever in trying to teach a snake to tap-dance.
 
  • #15
I know someone who can neither enter into the USA nor capable of sexual activities.
 
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Everything has a probability, no matter how vanishingly small, of occurring.

Nothing is impossible.

Therefore, more things are possible than impossible.
 
  • #17
Char. Limit said:
Nothing is impossible.

Obviously you've never been married.
 
  • #18
Char. Limit said:
Everything has a probability, no matter how vanishingly small, of occurring.

Nothing is impossible.

Therefore, more things are possible than impossible.

Proof?

I think not.
 
  • #19
Ivan Seeking said:
Obviously you've never been married.

Nope.

Pengwuino said:
Proof?

I think not.

If x>0, is it not true that x>0?
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
I think more things are impossible than possible. For instance, it is well know that barbers can't shave themselves nor can they fail to shave themselves.

The barber's a woman!

not is a logical negation. So if the original statement is: It's impossible for barber's to shave themselves, then the negation is it's possible that barber's can not shave themselves. Basically, if something is impossible then it's possible that it's impossible. If you have a reverse inclusion or a surjection feel free to share it

Char. Limit said:
If x>0, is it not true that x>0?

If x>0, there's a small possibility that I was referring to complex numbers the whole time and there is no field ordering available
 
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Danger said:
While I can't say that it's absolutely impossible, I've had no success whatsoever in trying to teach a snake to tap-dance.

LOL, I'm sure you could animate it some how.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
So if the original statement is: It's impossible for barber's to shave themselves, then the negation is it's possible that barber's can not shave themselves.
I'm pretty sure that the negation of "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves" is "It's possible for barbers to shave themselves". But Russell and Godel made the big bucks by claiming that both statements were themselves impossible.
 
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It is impossible for this thread to reach 10,000 posts.
:cool:
 
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It's impossible for my fingernail to form into a black hole within 5 seconds as I sit here now.
 
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It's impossible for the entire universe to spontaneously change into a lone gecko floating in space.
 
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I have a knack for doing the impossible. :biggrin:
 
  • #27
pallidin said:
It's impossible for the entire universe to spontaneously change into a lone gecko floating in space.

Have to get rid of the turtle first.
 
  • #28
wolram said:
Have to get rid of the turtle first.

I know a good soup recipe
 
  • #29
wolram said:
Have to get rid of the turtle first.

This made me laugh, I'll admit.
 
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cronxeh said:
Impossible to make someone love you

too easy unfortunately.. or fortunately for some
 
  • #31
pallidin said:
It's impossible for my fingernail to form into a black hole within 5 seconds as I sit here now.

Doesn't the uncertainty principle deem this as false?
 
  • #32
Char. Limit said:
Everything has a probability, no matter how vanishingly small, of occurring.

Nothing is impossible.

Therefore, more things are possible than impossible.

So impossibility is impossible?

Edit: This thread is fun.
 
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Getting my teacher to push back the deadline on a paper?

Also, the integral of e^(x^2) with respect to x
 
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ƒ(x) said:
Getting my teacher to push back the deadline on a paper?

Also, the integral of e^(x^2) with respect to x

Good one. I am successful with both of these, discretely.
 
  • #35
cronxeh said:
Good one. I am successful with both of these, discretely.

how do you take the integral?
 
  • #36
xxChrisxx said:
So impossibility is impossible?

Edit: This thread is fun.

gg


probably the most profound answer to a philosophical question I've ever seen
 
  • #37
ƒ(x) said:
how do you take the integral?

Very, very, carefully.
 
  • #38
cronxeh said:
Very, very, carefully.

Should i use gloves?
 
  • #39
ƒ(x) said:
Should i use gloves?

I prefer 'bomb first, ask questions later' approach. And I have too much ethanol in my system right now to make jokes :biggrin:
 
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Quoting or replying this post without reading it, greetings from New York City by the way.
 
  • #41
Ignorant_twit said:
Quoting or replying this post without reading it, greetings from New York City by the way.

Hey are you stalking me?? I AM NYC :biggrin:
 
  • #42
cronxeh said:
Hey are you stalking me?? I AM NYC :biggrin:

Next to Your Couch?
 
  • #43
Jimmy Snyder said:
I'm pretty sure that the negation of "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves" is "It's possible for barbers to shave themselves". But Russell and Godel made the big bucks by claiming that both statements were themselves impossible.

If the statement is "It's impossible for barber's to shave themselves", then the statement X is impossible means that X is: barber's can shave themselves. Not X is barber's cannot shave themselves. So the final step in the transformation is it's possible barber's cannot shave themselves. If it was impossible for them to shave themselves, then certainly it's possible that they can't shave themselves
 
  • #44
ƒ(x) said:
Next to Your Couch?

:smile: :smile: :smile: Load universe into a cannon.. Aim at the brain.. Shoot!
 
  • #45
reinaldo01 said:
Beyond human limits are impossible.

Impossible for humans, maybe.
 
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xxChrisxx said:
Edit: This thread is fun.
Fun?! Fun you say?! Here we are in the midst of a serious scientific discussion of something with absolutely no relevance, and you're trying to have fun?!
Banish him, I say, to the depths of GD?!

Oh, crap... never mind; we're already in GD...
 
  • #47
cronxeh said:
Load universe into a cannon

quite possibly the ultimate bfg?
 
  • #48
Office_Shredder said:
If the statement is "It's impossible for barber's to shave themselves", then the statement X is impossible means that X is: barber's can shave themselves. Not X is barber's cannot shave themselves. So the final step in the transformation is it's possible barber's cannot shave themselves. If it was impossible for them to shave themselves, then certainly it's possible that they can't shave themselves
The opposite of impossible is possible. The opposite of "It's impossible" is "It's possible". The opposite of "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves" is "It's possible for barbers to shave themselves". I have no idea why you struggle so with this.
 
  • #49
Office_Shredder said:
If the statement is "It's impossible for barber's to shave themselves", then the statement X is impossible means that X is: barber's can shave themselves. Not X is barber's cannot shave themselves. So the final step in the transformation is it's possible barber's cannot shave themselves. If it was impossible for them to shave themselves, then certainly it's possible that they can't shave themselves

This one is doing my head in :confused:
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
The opposite of impossible is possible. The opposite of "It's impossible" is "It's possible". The opposite of "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves" is "It's possible for barbers to shave themselves". I have no idea why you struggle so with this.


Because I'm not taking the opposite of the statement "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves". I'm taking the opposite of something which is impossible, and then saying that the new thing is possible. X is in the set of impossible things if X is impossible, but the statement "It's impossible for barbers to shave themselves" is not itself impossible (assuming it's true)
 
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