This gives us the length of each train as 500 meters.

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The discussion revolves around determining the length of two trains traveling at different speeds on parallel tracks. The problem involves analyzing the time it takes for the trains to pass each other in both the same and opposite directions, with a focus on algebraic methods for solving the problem.

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  • One participant presents the problem of two trains of equal length traveling at different speeds and asks for an algebraic solution.
  • Another participant converts the speeds of the trains from km/h to m/min and establishes relationships between the speeds and the length of the trains.
  • It is noted that the speed of the faster train is double that of the slower train.
  • Equations are set up to represent the scenarios of the trains passing each other in both the same and opposite directions.
  • A participant suggests that if time is set to 1 minute, the length of each train can be calculated as 500 meters.
  • Further algebraic manipulation leads to the conclusion that the length of each train is 500 meters, based on the derived equations.

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Participants appear to agree on the conclusion that the length of each train is 500 meters based on the calculations presented, although the discussion includes various steps and methods to arrive at this result.

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The discussion relies on specific assumptions about the time taken for the trains to pass each other and the relationships between their speeds. The calculations depend on the correctness of the algebraic manipulations and the initial conditions set by the problem.

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Two trains of equal length are on parallel tracks. One train is traveling at
40 km/h and the other at 20 km/h. It takes two minutes longer for the trains to
completely pass one another when going in the same direction, than when going
in opposite directions.
Determine the length of each train.

Is there a way to algebraically solve this
 
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I would convert the speeds to m/min...

$$v\,\frac{\text{km}}{\text{hr}}\cdot\frac{1\text{ hr}}{60\text{ min}}\cdot\frac{1000\text{ m}}{1\text{ km}}=\frac{50}{3}v\,\frac{\text{m}}{\text{min}}$$

And so the speed of the faster train (in m/min) is:

$$v_F=\frac{2000}{3}$$

And the speed of the slower train is:

$$v_S=\frac{1000}{3}$$

In fact, we could write:

$$v_F=2v_S$$

Let's let the length of the trains be $\ell$.

Now, when the trains pass going in the same direction, we have:

$$(v_F-v_S)(t+2)=2\ell$$

or:

$$v_S(t+2)=2\ell$$

And when the trains pass going in the opposite direction, we have:

$$(v_F+v_S)t=2\ell$$

or:

$$3v_St=2\ell$$

Can you proceed?
 
t=1 so l=500m?
 
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We have

$$3v_St=2L\quad(1)$$

and

$$v_S(t+2)=2L\quad(2)$$

Multiply $(2)$ by 3 and then subtract $(1)$ from the result:

$$3v_S(t+2)=6L\Rightarrow3v_St+6v_S=6L$$

$$6v_S=4L\Rightarrow v_S=\frac{2L}{3}\Rightarrow\frac{1000}{3}=\frac{2L}{3}\implies L=500\text{ m.}$$
 

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