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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of differentials in fluid mechanics, particularly in the context of a free body diagram. Participants explore the physical meaning of expressions involving specific weight and differential volumes, as well as the notation used in these expressions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of the expression γδxδyδz, noting that γ represents the specific weight of a fluid block and δ represents differential lengths in three dimensions.
  • Another participant explains that the δ notation indicates a very small element, suggesting that integration is not necessary because the specific weight γ does not vary significantly within such a small volume.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the geometric meaning of γδxδyδz, contemplating it as "the change in specific weight in any direction" and relating it to partial derivatives.
  • One response emphasizes that δx, δy, and δz represent small changes in their respective directions, and that the volume of the small element is δxδyδz, allowing γ to be treated as constant within that volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of δx, δy, and δz as representing small changes and the volume of the element as δxδyδz. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the geometric interpretation of γδxδyδz and its relation to changes in specific weight, with differing viewpoints on the clarity of this concept.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the distinction between δx and dx, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of the geometric meaning of the expressions involved.

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Hey all,

I just started a fluid mechanics class and I'm having trouble interpreting the physical meaning behind differentials in this free body diagram.

fluid-particle.jpg


For example, γδxδyδz. I know gamma is the specific weight of the block of fluid. And I know δ is the differential length in x, y, or z directions. But together as an expression what does this mean?

My thought process is:

λ=ρg

and it makes sense that the weight of the "block" of fluid is

λ*Volume

But wouldn't that look something like this:

∫∫∫λδxδyδz

If you're not integrating, then what does it mean when they're just hanging there?
Also, is there a difference between the notation δx and dx?

Thanks!
 
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The δ notation usually means you are considering a very small element. So the integral is not needed because the element is so small (probably you will take the size to 0 in some specific way at the end of the calculation) that you don't need the integral since γ will not vary inside this small volume.
 
Okay thanks for the response that makes sense. But as far as the geometric meaning goes, what does γδxδyδz mean?

In my head I think "The change in specific weight in any direction".

But that phrase makes me think more along the lines of:
[itex]\frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{x}}\hat{i} + \frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{y}}\hat{j} + \frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{z}}\hat{k}[/itex]

I'm probably just confusing myself. Any insight would be appreciated
 
This is an example of "physics math" that is meant to be more intuitive than rigorous math required to analyse the situation would have been, but it is only intuitive after you have grasped its ways. ##\delta x## means a "small change in ##x##", and it may also mean ##dx## whenever that is convenient. ## \delta x \delta y \delta z ## is the volume of a (small) box with (small) sides ## \delta x, \ \delta y, \ \delta z##. And because things are as small as we need them to be, ##\lambda## does not change significantly within the box, the weight of the box is just ## \lambda \delta x \delta y \delta z ## We ignore all of the inaccuracies of this description and say that things are equal when they are approximately equal.
 
txdw16 said:
Okay thanks for the response that makes sense. But as far as the geometric meaning goes, what does γδxδyδz mean?

In my head I think "The change in specific weight in any direction".

But that phrase makes me think more along the lines of:
[itex]\frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{x}}\hat{i} + \frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{y}}\hat{j} + \frac{\partial{\gamma}}{\partial{z}}\hat{k}[/itex]

I'm probably just confusing myself. Any insight would be appreciated

You had the correct insight in the OP, and then you started thinking too much.

The volume of the small element shown in the picture is indeed δxδyδz. We assume that because the dimensions of this element are so small, the specific weight γ can be treated as a constant. Hence, the weight of this tiny element is expressed as δw = γδxδyδz.
 

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