Time taken to form universe, religion vs science.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the comparison between religious texts and scientific understanding regarding the formation of the universe, specifically addressing the timeframe mentioned in the Bible and Quran versus scientific estimates. The scope includes conceptual exploration of faith versus empirical evidence.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that the religious texts state the universe was created in 6 days, equating this to 6000 Earth years based on a specific interpretation of time in the Quran.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial logic but notes that faith in religious ideas often conflicts with scientific understanding.
  • A later post emphasizes the historical context of when these religious texts were written, suggesting that the authors had no concept of the vast timescales understood by modern science.
  • Some participants express concern about discussing the rightness or wrongness of religious beliefs, citing forum guidelines that discourage such debates.
  • One participant questions the restrictions on discussing religion, advocating for the right to express opinions in a respectful manner.
  • A response highlights the potential for emotional and confrontational discussions surrounding religion, suggesting that this can lead to unproductive arguments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the compatibility of religious narratives and scientific evidence, with no consensus reached on the validity of either perspective. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of debating religious correctness.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the historical context of religious texts and the potential emotional responses elicited by discussions of faith, which may affect the quality of discourse.

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in the bible, and quran it mentions Earth and heavens and everything was created in 6 days right?

in the quran it mentioned that 1 day for god is equivilant to 1000 Earth years.

now if 6 days mentioned, means 6 days of God's, that means 6000 Earth years it took to created the universe.

but science suggests at least 400,000 Earth years just for atoms to form?

so clearly religion is wrong there.

am i missing anything there? is my logic flawed?
 
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No, your logic is not flawed.

But most religions require you to put 'faith' in their ideas even though they do not coincide with most of what human kind has learned through science.
 
alias25 said:
in the bible, and quran it mentions Earth and heavens and everything was created in 6 days right?

in the quran it mentioned that 1 day for god is equivilant to 1000 Earth years.

now if 6 days mentioned, means 6 days of God's, that means 6000 Earth years it took to created the universe.

but science suggests at least 400,000 Earth years just for atoms to form?

so clearly religion is wrong there.

am i missing anything there? is my logic flawed?
Consider when the sources were written, when people had no concept of billions of years, nor any understanding of the physics we now know and take for granted. Science has largely replaced the supernatural for many, but not all.

Be careful in this discussion because it's right of the border of being a discussion (particularly the rightness or wrongness) or religion or religious views which would be contrary to the PF guidelines.
 
o...sorry

why arn't we allowed to disscuss 'right/wrongness' of religions? everyone has opinions, arn't we allowed to speak our minds? in a decent mannar?
 
alias25 said:
o...sorry

why arn't we allowed to disscuss 'right/wrongness' of religions? everyone has opinions, arn't we allowed to speak our minds? in a decent mannar?

Not as far as religion is concerned. Please re-read the PF guidelines.
 
When I closed the thread, Astronuc was in the process of replying to the last post, so here it is:

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alias25 said:
o...sorry

why arn't we allowed to disscuss 'right/wrongness' of religions? everyone has opinions, arn't we allowed to speak our minds? in a decent mannar?

Well, if people could discuss matters, such as religion, in a calm, thoughtful and polite way, there would be no problem. However, some people become very emotional regarding such matters, and a discussion on religion may become confrontational and degenerate into bitter argument, which is rather unproductive - not to mention not good for one's health.

There are forums dedicated to discussions of religion - e.g. Belief.net

www.belief.net
 

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