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The discussion centers on calculating the time required for 0.336 kg of water at 84°C to cool down to 46°C in a well-insulated cylindrical cup at an ambient temperature of 25°C. The specific heat capacity of water is noted as 4150 J/kg·K, and the U-value is 10.64 W/m²·K, with a surface area of 0.00447 m² exposed to air. The initial calculation for time, T, resulted in a negative value due to a misunderstanding of logarithmic functions. It was clarified that the natural logarithm (loge) should be used, which resolves the negative issue when applying Newton's Law of Cooling. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying mathematical principles in thermal calculations.
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My question refers to the cooling of water in a well-insulated , cylindrical cup that is opened at the top.

0.336Kg of water at 84degCel is poured into the cup which is left to stand on a table at an ambient temperature of 25degCel. The specific heat capacity of water is 4150 J Kg^-1 K^-1 and the U-value is 10.64Wm^-2K^-1. The area of the water surface that is exposed to the surroundings air is 0.00447 m^2.

So, how to calculate the time taken in seconds for the water to cool down to 46degCel?

This is what I have done so far...

Let x = (U-value)(Surface Area)/(mass)(Heat Capacity)
Let y1 = 46DegCel (cool down temp)
Let y2 = 84DegCel (Water temp)
Let y3 = 25DegCel (Ambient tempt)
Taking time to be T, so...

T = -1/x log (y1-y3)/(y2-y3)
= -13153 (sec)

I got negative, so my guess something is wrong here. The formula is from my book. Need help...
 
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Have you studied Newtons Law of Cooling?
 
I saw the mistake...it's suppose to be log base e thus the negative is canceled out. Btw, you I've studied Newton's Law
 
dzkl said:
My question refers to the cooling of water in a well-insulated , cylindrical cup that is opened at the top.

0.336Kg of water at 84degCel is poured into the cup which is left to stand on a table at an ambient temperature of 25degCel. The specific heat capacity of water is 4150 J Kg^-1 K^-1 and the U-value is 10.64Wm^-2K^-1. The area of the water surface that is exposed to the surroundings air is 0.00447 m^2.

So, how to calculate the time taken in seconds for the water to cool down to 46degCel?

This is what I have done so far...

Let x = (U-value)(Surface Area)/(mass)(Heat Capacity)
Let y1 = 46DegCel (cool down temp)
Let y2 = 84DegCel (Water temp)
Let y3 = 25DegCel (Ambient tempt)
Taking time to be T, so...

T = -1/x log (y1-y3)/(y2-y3)
= -13153 (sec)

I got negative, so my guess something is wrong here. The formula is from my book. Need help...

Couple of things. First, the log should be the natural logarithm, loge not log10. Second, your argument for the log is less than one, so it should yield a negative value that is subsequently dealt with bu the "-" in front of 1/x.
 
dzkl said:
I saw the mistake...it's suppose to be log base e thus the negative is canceled out. Btw, you I've studied Newton's Law

sorry i wasnt able see Newtons law of cooling equation. You have written it in such a way that i thought you have written some other thing. I saw it now
 
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