To find the relative velocity of the wind as seen from a car

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The discussion revolves around calculating the relative velocity of wind as perceived from a moving car. The user, Mitch, outlines their approach using vector equations to express the wind's velocity in two scenarios, ultimately deriving a formula for the wind's true velocity. After working through the algebra, Mitch realizes they made an error in their calculations but confirms that the method itself is sound. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in physics problems. The thread concludes with Mitch acknowledging their mistake and expressing gratitude for any assistance.
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Homework Statement
To find the relative velocity of the wind as seen from a car
Relevant Equations
Vab=Va-Vb
Could I please ask for any help with the following question:

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Here's my attempt: (i and j are unit vectors in the directions of east and north respectively)

(apologies that LaTeX is simply not working for me, I'll label the angles in each case T and P as shown in my diagram)

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Let the velocity of the wind relative to the car be V_wc then:

V_wc = V_w - V_c

therefore V_w = V_wc + V_c

This is the true velocity of the wind.

In the first situation call the apparent magnitude of the wind's velocity K1 and in the second call it K2 then:

Case 1: V_w = -K1 * cos(T) i + ( K1 * sin(T) - u ) j

Case 2: V_w = -K2 * cos(P) i + ( K2 * sin(P) + u ) j

Now I can eliminate K1 and solve for K2, I get:

K2 = 2u / ( cos(P) tan(T) - sin(P) )

I can substitute this into the Case 2 equation for V_w to obtain:

V_w = ( -2u / [ tan(T) - tan(P) ] ) i + ( 2u / [ tan(T) tan(P) - 1 ] + u ) j

So this is the true velocity of the wind.

So now, for case 3 where the speed of the motorist is 2u heading north I need to find:

V_wc = V_w - V_c = ( -2u / [ tan(T) - tan(P) ] ) i + ( 2u / [ tan(T) tan(P) - 1 ] - u ) j

This leads to :

2 tan(w) = ( ( 2 / [ tan(T) tan(P) - 1 ] - 1 ) ) * (tan(T) - tan(P))

Which is not the desired answer.

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.
 
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