To find total work done from multiple reversible processes

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The discussion centers on calculating the total work done from multiple reversible processes involving an ideal gas. The first process is isochoric, resulting in zero work done as the volume remains constant. The second process is isothermal, where the work done is calculated using the formula W = RT ln(1/2), with the final volume being V1/2. The final process is isobaric, yielding work done as (P1V1)/2. The user seeks clarification on discrepancies in their calculations and emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the work done on versus by the gas.

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Homework Statement
One mole of an ideal gas is heated isochorically till its temperature is doubled. Then it is expanded isothermally till it reaches the original pressure. Finally it is cooled by an isobaric process and restored to the original state. By assuming all the processes to be reversible, show that the resultant work done is RT [2 log 2-1].
Relevant Equations
Isothermal W= nRT ln (V(2)/V(1))
Isobaric W= P (V(2)-V(1))
The question is given in 3 parts.

For first part, process is isochoric so Work done=0. We know here that at end of the process (a), T2=T1 while V remains constant (we can take it as V1) so P2=2P1.

For second part, process is isothermal so T is constant. At end of process we reach P1 again from 2P1, thus V2 for the end stage of this process=V1/2. Isothermal W= RT ln (1/2)

For the last part, original state is restored. Thus final volume for this particular state is V1 from V1/. P is kept constant. Thus Isobaric W = P1 (V1-V1/2)= (P1V1)/2.

Adding first and third results we will not get the value expressed in solution. I would be very grateful if someone looked over my solution and offered guidance as to where I am making the error..
 
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warhammer said:
Homework Statement:: One mole of an ideal gas is heated isochorically till its temperature is doubled. Then it is

warhammer said:
For first part, process is isochoric so Work done=0. We know here that at end of the process (a), T2=T1 while V remains constant (we can take it as V1) so P2=2P1.
If the temperarure is doubled, then T₂ = 2T₁ (not T₂ = T₁).

I haven't checked anything else in detail but also note that you need to be clear if you are being asked for the work done on the gas or the work done by the gas.
 
warhammer said:
For second part, process is isothermal so T is constant. At end of process we reach P1 again from 2P1, thus V2 for the end stage of this process=V1/2. Isothermal W= RT ln (1/2)
Note that your expression for ##W## is negative. Does this make sense if the gas is expanding?

Adding first and third results we will not get the value expressed in solution. I would be very grateful if someone looked over my solution and offered guidance as to where I am making the error..
You seem to have made a number of simple mistakes or you made a bunch of typos. I suggest you carefully determine the pressure, temperature, and volume at the beginning and end of each process.
 
State 1: T, V, P
State 2: 2T, V, 2P
State 3: 2T, 2V, P
State 4: T, V, P

Show these on a P-V diagram
 

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