Torque before slipping in a refrigerator

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The discussion revolves around understanding the torque involved in a refrigerator tipping scenario, specifically addressing the relationship between gravitational force and acceleration in the context of torque calculations.

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  • Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the arrangement of terms in the torque equations, questioning why specific distances are used in the context of gravitational force and acceleration. There is a focus on understanding the fundamental concepts of torque and lever arms.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of torque and the significance of the moment arm relative to the tipping point. There is an ongoing exploration of the underlying concepts, with multiple interpretations being discussed.

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Participants express a sense of missing fundamental concepts related to torque and its calculation, indicating potential gaps in understanding the physical principles involved.

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Homework Statement
A delivery truck is carrying a 120-kg refrigerator. The refrigerator is 2.20 m tall and 85.0 cm wide. The refrigerator is facing sideways and is prevented from sliding. What is the maximum acceleration that the truck can have before the refrigerator begins to tip over? Assume that the center of gravity of the refrigerator is located at its geometrical center.
Relevant Equations
Torque=Fr
The solution lists out mg(b/2)=ma(h/2) and then proceeds to solve for a.
I am a bit stuck on how the initial equation is listed - why is the (b/2) swapped with the (h/2)? (namely, why isn't the equation mg(h/2)=ma(b/2)? My logic for this is y-direction and x-direction )
I feel that I am missing a fundamental concept here
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Because the moment arm of the gravitational force relative to the tipping point is b/2 and not h/2.

It is a question about the met torque relative to the tipping point. Torque is the force multiplied by the distance between its line of action and the reference point.
 
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mancity said:
. . . why isn't the equation mg(h/2)=ma(b/2)? I feel that I am missing a fundamental concept here
You are missing a very fundamental concept. The lever arm h/2 is vertical and the force of gravity mg is also vertical. Since they are parallel, the torque is zero. The same applies to b/2 and ma except that they are parallel in the horizontal direction. The fundamental concept is that the cross product between two parallel vectors is always zero.
 
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I feel that I am missing a fundamental concept here
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