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The discussion focuses on solving a torque problem involving a hinged trap door with a mass of 25 kg and a length of 1.0 m. For question one, the upward force required to hold the door at a 60-degree angle must be calculated using the correct trigonometric function, which is cosine rather than sine. In question two, the torque equation T = I·α is applied to find the angular acceleration, but the correct torque calculation also requires using cosine for accurate results. For question three, energy conservation principles are suggested to determine the angular velocity just before the door slams shut. Clarifications and corrections on the use of trigonometric functions are emphasized throughout the discussion.
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In a floor there is a heavy duty uniform trap door that is hinged at one side the door has a mass if M = 25 kg a length from hinge to edge of L = 1.0 m, and rotational moment of inertia I = (ML^2)/3= 8.33 kg*m^2.

Question 1:
What upward Force must be applied to handle at the edge of the door in order to hold it stationary with an angle of 60 with respect to the floor?

Question 2:
The door released and allowed to swing closed. immediately after release what is the angular acceleration of the door?

Question 3:
What angular velocity does the door have just before it slams shut?

The Attempt at a solution
for question 1:

T= r.m.g.sin(@)
= 0.5 m x 25 kg x 9.8 m/s^2 x sin 60
= 106.09 N.m

for question 2:
T= I.alfa
106.09 = 8.33 . alfa

alfa = 12.74 m/s^2

I really don't know how to do the question 3.

is this seems ok so far to you. thanks.
 

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i did the changes. can you please look at it again?
 
For question 1, set the sum of the torques of all forces (the weight and the unknown force F) equal to zero with respect to the hinge. You can calculate the force F from this equation. It seems you didn't do the trig part correctly in part 2. Regarding question 3, you can use energy conservation.
 
can you please tell me in detail what i should use in question 2 and in question 3?
 
kenau_reveas said:
can you please tell me in detail what i should use in question 2 and in question 3?

Ok, let's go for question 2 first. You wrote down the equation T = I\cdot \alpha. The only torque comes from the weight. You know the moment of inertia of the door around the hinge, so you can calculate the angular acceleration easily.
 
That is what i have done in the question 2. right? i know the torque and I both and then based on it i found alfa.
 
kenau_reveas said:
That is what i have done in the question 2. right? i know the torque and I both and then based on it i found alfa.

Yes, but as I mentioned, you missed the trig. The torque equals T = mg \cdot \frac{L}{2}\cdot \cos\alpha.
 
i have used sin (@) in first one. does my first question seems right to you? and do i have to define T again in question 2?
 
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can anyone help me with this one?
 
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As radou has said above, you should use cosine and NOT sine for question one. If you are finding it difficult to visualise, then draw a triangle composed of the horizontal, the tap door and the force. Remember that you need to force and the displacement from the pivot to be perpendicular. This applies to both question one and two.
 
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