Total Energy of a Particle After Discharging a Photon in a Moving Frame

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A particle at rest discharges a photon with energy 1/2mc^2 while a spaceship moves at 0.8c in the same direction. The initial energy of the particle is mc^2, and after the discharge, the energy and momentum must be conserved. The calculations initially suggest the particle's energy in the spaceship frame is 1/2mc^2, but this is incorrect according to the reference used, which states the correct energy is 3/2mc^2. The discussion highlights the importance of using the correct relativistic equations and terminology, such as "emission" instead of "discharge." Ultimately, applying the right formulas leads to the accurate energy calculation in different frames.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is at rest in the lab frame.
The particle discharge a photon with energy 1/2mc^2 to the direction of x+.
A spaceship is moving at v = 0.8c in the direction x+ (in the same direction the photon is moving).
What is the total energy of the particle after it discharge the photon relativity to the spaceship frame?

Homework Equations


E = m{\gamma}c^2
P = m{\gamma}v
E_{photon} = pc

The Attempt at a Solution


Let's mark the new mass after the discharge: m'
And the new \gamma after the discharge : \gamma'
And the energy of the particle after the discharge relative to the lab: E_{particle}The energy before the discharge:
E_i = mc^2

The momentum before the discharge:
P_i = 0

After the discharge the energy and the momentum are same, so:

E_{photon} = 1/2mc^2
E_f = mc^2 = E_{photon} + E_{particle} = m'{\gamma'}c^2 + 1/2mc^2
so:
1/2m = m'{\gamma'}

since E_{photon} = pc we can say that:
P_{photon} = 1/2mc
and:
0 = P_i = P_f = 1/2mc + m'{\gamma'}v.
but
m'{\gamma'} = 1/2m
so:
0 = P_i = P_f = 1/2mc + 1/2mv.
so:
v = -c.
So the particle is seen from all frames with the same velocity and there for
the energy is the same that observed in the lab frame:
Ans = mc^2-1/2mc^2=1/2mc^2.

However this is not correct (by my reference), does anyone know why?
By my reference the right answer is:
Ans = {3/2}mc^2.
Thanks,
Shai.
 
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buc030 said:
So the particle is seen from all frames with the same velocity and there for
the energy is the same that observed in the lab frame:
The particle has to be massless, I agree (which is a bit strange, but possible). This gives a speed of c in all reference frames, but the energy is still frame-dependent.

By the way, I never heard "discharge" for those processes. Usually, they are called "emission", if the result is another massive particle. If a particle decays to two photons (as in this example), I would simply call it "decay".
 
You are right!
After I apply

E'={\gamma}(E-pv)
I get the correct result!
Thank.
Regarding the name of the process you are probably right, I translated this question from Hebrew so...
 
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hi buc030! welcome to pf! :smile:

a more direct way would be to use the red-shift formula to calculate the energy of the photon, and the initial energy of the particle, in the .8c frame, and just subtract :wink:
 
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Yeah you have a point there :)
 
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