Total power entering earth's atmoshpere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total power entering Earth's atmosphere from solar energy, considering factors such as the solar constant, Earth's radius, and planetary albedo. Participants are exploring the implications of these values on power absorption and surface temperature without providing definitive solutions.

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  • Participants attempt to calculate total power entering the atmosphere and the power absorbed by the Earth's surface, questioning the appropriate equations and conversions needed. There is discussion about the effects of albedo and the correct area to use for calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various calculations and corrections. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of cross-sectional areas and the definition of albedo. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the calculations of power and temperature.

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Assuming the EarthÕs radius is 6378 km, the solar constant is 1370 W/m2 and our planetary albedo is 0.31 then

a) Determine the total power (from solar energy) entering the EarthÕs atmosphere

b) What power would be absorbed by the EarthÕs surface in the absence of an atmosphere?

c) What would the surface temperature be assuming it radiated into space all the energy it absorbed?

Anyone know what to do here? I havn't a clue what equations to use and having trouble finding them...
 
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My attempt is
a. Total power entering atmosphere = (4pier^2)/2(solar constant) = 350 X 10^9 watts

b. 31% would be absorbed my the Earth if there was no atmosphere, 108.5 watts absorbed.

c. The temperature of Earth if 108.5 watts absorbed and rest is sent back to space would be i have no idea even if that number is right...
 
Well, you've got power per area. How much area does the Earth present to the sun? What does albedo do to the problem?
 
Well that's why i divided by 2, and albedo is the pecentage of energy the Earth absorbs...
 
Good in principle, but you want a cross-sectional area, like a disk. And you are orders of magnitude off. Did you convert km to m?
 
no.. am I suppose, ha yah i am! ok so make it X 10^12, and should I be dividing the 108.5 ten to the twelve by have the area of the Earth to get, 424.5 watts/ meter squared?
 
have = half
 
no wait that's wrong still, should be 3.5 times ten to the 17th. then take 31 % of that...
 
so this is what i have now
a. Total power entering atmosphere = (4pier^2)/2(solar constant) = 3.5 X 10^17 watts

b. 31% would be absorbed my the Earth if there was no atmosphere, 1.09 X 10^17 watts absorbed.

c. The temperature of Earth if 1.09 X 10^17 absorbed and rest is sent back to space would be 1.09 X 10^17/ 2pier^2 = 424.7 watts/m^2 on the Earth, giving a temp of 20 degrees Celsius?
still just guessing on the temp tho...
 
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I want pi*r^2 for the area of the earth. Sunlight doesn't strike the polar regions directly. And albedo is the percentage reflected, not absorbed. For temperature check out the Stefan-Boltzmann law.
 
  • #11
Ok, so pi r^2 for all equations, so working more in 2d then.. thanks a lot!
 
  • #12
No, pi*r^2 just for power received. 4*pi*r^2 for the area that radiates heat back!
 
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a. Total power entering atmosphere = (pi r^2)(solar constant) = 1.75 X 10^17 watts

b. 31% would be absorbed my the Earth if there was no atmosphere, 5.4 X 10^16 watts absorbed.

c. Earth absorbs 5.4 X 10^16/ 4pi r^2 = 105.5 watts/m^2 = (boltzmann's constant)T^4, Thus T = this will be in Kelvins... lower than 1?
 
  • #14
may bad, using internet calculators.. so I got T = 207.7 K
 
  • #15
Once more - albedo is the percentage reflected - not absorbed.
 
  • #16
ok thanks got it now!
 

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