Transistor Biasing: Is the Base Current Constant in Both Biasing Schemes?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of base current in two different transistor biasing schemes, specifically focusing on whether the base current remains constant when changing the potentiometer in each configuration. Participants explore the implications of using a current source versus a voltage divider for biasing, and how these configurations affect collector current and base current.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that in the current source biasing scheme, the base current adjusts to maintain a constant collector current, while others question if the same holds true for the voltage divider configuration.
  • One participant explains that the emitter resistor provides negative feedback, stabilizing the collector current despite variations in base current due to changes in the emitter current.
  • Another participant asserts that if the collector resistance increases while maintaining constant collector current, the base current must increase to compensate, although they acknowledge that this is influenced by the early effect.
  • Some participants note that the early effect can alter the transistor's current gain, thereby affecting the base current, but emphasize that for practical applications, these changes are often negligible.
  • There is a discussion about the significance of the early voltage in BJTs compared to FETs, with some participants indicating that the early effect is more pronounced in FETs.
  • One participant highlights the importance of negative feedback in the circuit, suggesting that small changes in base-emitter voltage can lead to significant changes in base current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the base current remains constant across the two biasing schemes. While some agree that the base current must adjust to maintain collector current, others argue that it may not change significantly in certain configurations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the early effect and its implications on base current and transistor gain, but do not reach a consensus on how significant these effects are in practical scenarios. There are also references to specific design rules and empirical observations that may not apply universally.

  • #31
jim hardy said:
i'd recommend the ancient Texas Instruments book "Transistor Circuit Design"

a google showed it in a lot of used bookstores.

While on the subject their wonderful "OpAmps for Everyone" is available as a download
from TI's library

search for slod006b.pdf and add it to your library...

Already did. Thank you. I am learning waaaay more than I need to pass my exam. This course I am taking is very narrow, although it should be since I am studying telecommunications. But I cannot just accept things like, negative feedback, differential amplifiers and so on. Need to have a nice explanation for it :)
 
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  • #32
Bassalisk said:
No I didn't order from there, because I don't think Amazon can send to my country. I found it on ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electronic-Principles-Albert-Paul-Malvino-/180738521739?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item2a14dafa8b

It is the correct author, make sure you get the textbook, not the experiments book that I bought.:cry:
 
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  • #33
Btw. the book, Electronic Principles by Malvino, is just out of this world. I just wish I had it when I started learning transistors. Its making my life just 10 times more easy.

Thank you very much.
 
  • #34
I am glad you like it. Make sure you study the opamp and Bode Plot. It is very very good. It is so good that I even tried to buy one and get the wrong one.

Don't think this is too simple to be useful, I designed heavy duty transistors circuits and integrated circuits for years, the stuff works. that little r'e and Vt that is 25ohm for 1mA and 25mV and room temperature is all you need to know and to scale the r'e with current.
 

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