Transition between Quantum Mechanics and QFT

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the transition from Quantum Mechanics (QM) to Quantum Field Theory (QFT), specifically addressing the challenges faced by learners when encountering foundational concepts such as the Klein-Gordon equation and Lagrangian density. Participants explore the prerequisites and resources that may aid in this transition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the assumption of prior knowledge regarding the Klein-Gordon equation in the book by Peskin and Schroeder, indicating a lack of deep understanding from their QM classes.
  • Another participant reassures that as long as the learner understands the material, the pedagogical approach of the text is not a significant issue.
  • A participant notes that there is currently no strong link between QM and QFT, suggesting that the Klein-Gordon Lagrangian may seem arbitrary without a solid grasp of field equations.
  • Some participants recommend alternative resources, such as books by Lewis Ryder and Pierre Ramond, which may provide clearer explanations.
  • One participant highlights the importance of studying the representation theory of the Poincare group to understand why Lagrangians are structured as they are, referencing Wigner's paper and Weinberg's work as valuable resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of existing resources and the necessity of prior knowledge for understanding QFT. There is no consensus on a single best approach or resource for making the transition from QM to QFT.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the lack of comprehensive literature linking QM and QFT, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge that may affect understanding. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with advanced concepts and the assumptions made by textbooks.

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Hello! I just started reading a book about QFT by Peskin (it was recommended by one of my physics professor and I saw that MIT course on QFT also uses it). However they start right away with Klein-Gordon equation suggesting that I should be familiar with it. I took 2 classes on quantum mechanics (in which I finished the Griffith book) and I was mentioned about Klein-Gordon equation a bit (just that it is a relativistic form of Schrödinger equation and some basic stuff) but I didn't do anything deep about it. I was wondering what should I read to be able to make the transition from Quantum Mechanics to QFT? Thank you!
 
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Where do you have trouble with Peskin and Schroeder? It should be ok, if you have attended QM1. You can ask questions in the quantum forum here at PF.
 
vanhees71 said:
Where do you have trouble with Peskin and Schroeder? It should be ok, if you have attended QM1. You can ask questions in the quantum forum here at PF.
It is not that I have problems in understanding. They explain stuff pretty clear, the thing is that many times they put it like: "You should be familiar with this, but we will still describe it briefly here". For example the lagrangian associated with KG equation is not hard to understand, but they suggest that I should have already known it, from my QM class, which I don't. I was just wondering if there is any intermediate step that I missed. Thank you!
 
Don't worry about such "pedagogical" talk. As long as you understand it, it's fine. As I said, one great thing of this forum is that you can ask questions, and maybe somebody can help.
 
@Silviu there's no link between QM and QFT nowadays, for the fail of specially relativistic Quantum Mechanics is not a subject of too many books. It might seem that the Klein-Gordon Lagrangian density is pulled out of the hat, but if you already know the field equations, then there's little room for the Lagrangian density. The standard requirements: real function of fields, cannot contain 3 derivatives (the field equations have only 2), must be local (the field and its derivatives must be evaluated at the same spacetime point).

The book by Peskin and Schroeder is a standard in teaching, but I think a shorter book could also serve good and clear explanations. Lewis Ryder wrote a good book, and also Pierre Ramond.
 
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If the question is, why the Lagrangians look as they look, then one has to study the representation theory of the Poincare group. Wigner's original paper is already very readable:

E. P. Wigner, On Unitary Representations of the Inhomgeneous Lorentz Group, Annals of Mathematics, 40 (1939), p. 149.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0920-5632(89)90402-7

Then there's a very good treatment in Weinberg, Quantum Theory of Fields, vol. 1.
 
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