Transition probability from two states

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The discussion revolves around the transition probability between two quantum states, represented by the states |1⟩ and |2⟩, within the context of a Hamiltonian matrix. The problem involves calculating the probability of transitioning from state |1⟩ to state |2⟩ over a specified time interval using quantum mechanics principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss expressing the states in terms of energy eigenstates and evolving these states over time. There is mention of projecting the evolved state into |2⟩ to find the transition probability. Some participants question the necessity of writing a generic state and focus on the specific transition from |1⟩ to |2⟩.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem without writing a generic state. There are reflections on the relationship between first-order perturbation theory and the transition probability, with some participants exploring the implications of their observations.

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Participants are considering the validity of approximations in the context of the transition probability and the conditions under which these approximations hold true.

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Homework Statement


A system has two independent states ##|1\rangle## and ##|2\rangle## represented by column matrices ##|1\rangle \rightarrow (1,0)## and ##|2\rangle \rightarrow (0.1)##. With respect to these two states, the Hamiltonian has a time independent matrix representation $$\begin{pmatrix} E&U\\U&E \end{pmatrix},$$ E and U both real. Show that the probability of a transition from state ##|1\rangle## to state ##|2\rangle## in a time interval ##t## is given by (without any approximation) ##p(t) = \sin^2(Ut/\hbar)##

Homework Equations


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Time dependent Schrödinger equation

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Reexpress the states in terms of energy eigenstates, so can write the general evolution of an arbritary state. The eigenvectors of the Hamiltonian are ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(1,1) = |u_1\rangle## and ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(1,-1) = |u_2\rangle##. Then ##|1\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|u_1\rangle + |u_2 \rangle )## while ##|2\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|u_1\rangle - |u_2 \rangle ).## So generic state is $$|\Psi,t_o \rangle = C_1 (1,0) + C_2 (0,1) \Rightarrow |\Psi, t\rangle = \frac{C_1}{\sqrt{2}} (|u_1\rangle e^{-iE_1 t/\hbar} + |u_2 \rangle e^{-iE_2 t/\hbar} ) + \frac{C_2}{\sqrt{2}} (|u_1\rangle e^{-iE_1 t/\hbar} - |u_2 \rangle e^{-iE_2 t/\hbar}).$$ But I am not sure how to progress. I am looking to compute ##\langle \Psi, t | 1 \rangle## and from that extract the probability of finding state |2>.
Thanks!
 
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You don't need to write a generic state. The problem asks about a transition from 1 to 2.
All you need to do is write (as you have already done) 1 and 2 in the eigenvector basis. Then evolve 1 in time t and project it into 2, to find the probability of finding 2.
 
Hi assed,
assed said:
You don't need to write a generic state. The problem asks about a transition from 1 to 2.
All you need to do is write (as you have already done) 1 and 2 in the eigenvector basis. Then evolve 1 in time t and project it into 2, to find the probability of finding 2.
Thanks, I see. I noticed that the result obtained from the first order time dependent theory gives exactly the same result. So the first order correction to the transition probability induced by the given time independent hamiltonian is exact. Is there any reason why we would expect this or does this imply that the approximation is true regardless of size of U? Thanks!
 
Woops, ignore my last reply, the first order term coming from perturbation theory gives the first term in the expansion of sin^2 Ut/h, which is more sensible. So the approximation is valid for a time interval ##t## such that ##P^{(1)}(t) = P_{1 \rightarrow 2} + P_{1 \rightarrow 1} = 1## holds. Is that correct?
 

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