Transmisison Line Shunt Capacitance

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Why is there a shunt capacitance in a transmission line, but not in a normal circuit (non-transmission line).?
 
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yabb dabba do said:
Why is there a shunt capacitance in a transmission line, but not in a normal circuit (non-transmission line).?

Do you mean a power transmission line? If yes, it is because power lines have very high voltages, and their length can be hundreds or even a thousand miles. So called stray capacitance is quite significant in those conditions.

The phrase transmission line also applies to communications. They should not be confused with power transmission lines.
 
anorlunda said:
Do you mean a power transmission line? If yes, it is because power lines have very high voltages, and their length can be hundreds or even a thousand miles. So called stray capacitance is quite significant in those conditions.

The phrase transmission line also applies to communications. They should not be confused with power transmission lines.

I think the same transmission line models are used as long as the length of the transmission line is quite long relative to wave length
 
yabb dabba do said:
I think the same transmission line models are used as long as the length of the transmission line is quite long relative to wave length
In power grid simulations, we include shunt capacitance in all lines longer than about one kilometer. It has nothing to do with wavelength.

Three phase, three wire, power lines are very different than single phase, two wire lines.
 
anorlunda said:
Do you mean a power transmission line? If yes, it is because power lines have very high voltages.

But formula for capacitance is C = Q/V.
So higher voltage, lower capacitance... ?
 
jaus tail said:
But formula for capacitance is C = Q/V.
So higher voltage, lower capacitance... ?

Higher voltages interact more with the ground, so Q is not constant.

You have to be careful with formulas in real life. Like designing a higher voltage power line. Many things other than V will change.
 
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yabb dabba do said:
Why is there a shunt capacitance in a transmission line, but not in a normal circuit (non-transmission line).?
Every wire in every circuit has capacitance. It exists, for instance, between the conductors of a telephone line, and also between every conductor and the rest of the Universe.