Trig problem using formuals to transform the equation

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric equation involving the transformation of the expression sin(2x) - cos(2x) into a form that includes a sine function with a phase shift. The original poster is attempting to find the value of A in the equation sin(2x) - cos(2x) = sqrt(2)sin(2x + Aπ), where 0 < A < 2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric identities to manipulate the left side of the equation to match the right side. There are attempts to equate coefficients of sine and cosine terms. Some participants express confusion about transforming the right side to include sqrt(2) and question the process of equating coefficients.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting the use of the sine addition formula. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in transforming the equation, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention previous similar problems to illustrate their understanding, indicating that they are drawing parallels to aid their reasoning. There is also a reference to using external tools like WolframAlpha to verify results, which may suggest a reliance on computational assistance in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement



sin(2x)-cos(2x)=sqrt(2)sin(2x+Api), then the number 0 < A = ____ < 2

Homework Equations



http://bit.ly/9njiUW <-- trig reference sheet with formulas and identites

The Attempt at a Solution



So I start with the left side of the equation and attempt to make it look like the right in order to figure out what A is. Using some identities i started out:

2sin(x)cos(x) - cos^2(x) + sin^2(x)
2sin(x)cos(x) - ( 1 - sin^2(x) ) + sin^2(x)
2sin(x)cos(x) - 1 + sin^2(x) +sin^2(x)
2sin(x)cos(x) - 1 + 2sin^2(x)
2( 1/2[ sin(x + x) + sin(x - x) ] ) - 1 + 2sin^2(x)
sin(x + x) + sin(x - x) - 1 + 2sin^2(x)
sin(2x) + sin(0) - 1 + 2sin^2(x)
sin(2x) + 0 - 1 + 2sin^2(x)
sin(2x) -1 + 2sin^2(x)

Then I realized I made a big loop with the "sin(2x)" part and am not sure how to go from there.
 
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The only identity you need is the expansion for sin(A+B). When you do that you'll have

[tex]sin2x-cos2x=\sqrt{2}sin2x.cosA\pi+\sqrt{2}cos2x.sinA\pi[/tex]

And notice that the right side is of the form [tex]C_1sin2x-C_2cos2x[/tex] where [tex]C_1,C_2[/tex] are just some constants.

This means you can equate both sides, so [tex]1=C_1[/tex] and [tex]1=C_2[/tex]
 
I still don't understand how you've mentioned to transform the right side equals the left side.
1. I don't understand how i would transform anything on the right side to have a [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]
2. I do know the answer but i don't know how to get there. I used wolframalpha and the answer is "A=[tex]\frac{7}{4}[/tex]"

Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough? I dunno... Hrmm... Well here's an example of another problem that I was able to work out that is like the one I've asked help for.

[tex]sin(x-\pi) = Asin(x)[/tex]

[tex]sin(x)cos(\pi)-cos(x)sin(\pi)[/tex]
[tex]sin(x)cos(\pi)-cos(x)(0)[/tex]
[tex]sin(x)cos(\pi)[/tex]
[tex]sin(x)(-1)[/tex]
[tex]-1sin(x)[/tex]
[tex]A= -1[/tex]

So that's how I've attempted to try and solve this one but with no luck. :/
 
It's exactly the same process, but in a little more complicated fashion.

In that other example you ended up with [tex]-sinx=Asinx[/tex] and then since sinx is on both sides of the equation, you can equate the coefficients which are -1 and A, so then -1=A.

Another way to look at it is to take them to one side, [tex]-sinx-Asinx=0[/tex]

and then [tex]sinx(-1-A)=0[/tex] and since sinx can be all values from -1 to 1 and not just 0, we have to consider when the other factor -1-A=0, thus A=-1

The same deal applies for your question...

Equate the coefficients of both sides (thus equate the coefficients of sin2x and cos2x) or equivalently you can take everything to one side and factor out sin2x and cos2x which will give you the same answer.

[tex] sin2x-cos2x=\sqrt{2}sin2x.cosA\pi+\sqrt{2}cos2x.sinA\pi[/tex]

[tex] sin2x-\sqrt{2}sin2x.cosA\pi-cos2x-\sqrt{2}cos2x.sinA\pi=0[/tex]

[tex]sin2x(1-\sqrt{2}cosA\pi)+cos2x(-1-\sqrt{2}sinA\pi)=0[/tex]

Now simply make each factor equal to 0.It's pretty much the same as when you equate coefficients of different variables, say if [tex]ax^2+bx+c\equiv 2x^2+3x+4[/tex] then a=2,b=3,c=4.
 

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