Trignometric and hyperbolic equalities: Why the golden ratio?

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The discussion revolves around various trigonometric and hyperbolic equalities, highlighting the involvement of the golden ratio in several solutions. Specific angles are derived for equations such as sin θ = cos θ, sin θ = tan θ, and others, with some angles yielding no real solutions. The participants explore the geometric significance of the golden ratio and its unexpected appearances in mathematical contexts. Additionally, there are clarifications on the correct notation for inverse hyperbolic functions and the existence of complex solutions for certain equations. The conversation emphasizes the intricate relationships between trigonometric functions and the golden ratio.
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\sin \theta = \cos \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}

2.

\sin \theta = \tan \theta

\theta = 0

3.

\cos \theta = \tan \theta

\theta =\arcsin (\varphi -1)

4.

\sin \theta = \csc \theta

\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}

5.

\sin \theta =\sec \theta

\theta does not exist.

6.

\sin \theta =\cot \theta

\theta = \arccos (\varphi -1)

7.

\cos \theta =\csc \theta

\theta does not exist.

8.

\cos \theta =\sec \theta

\theta=0

9.

\cos \theta = \cot \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{2}

10.

\tan \theta =\csc \theta

\theta =\arccos(\varphi-1)

11.

\tan \theta = \sec \theta\theta=\frac{\pi}{2}

12.

\tan \theta = \cot \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}13.

\csc \theta =\sec \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}

14.

\csc \theta =\cot \theta

\theta = \arccos (\varphi -1)

15.

\sec \theta =\cot \theta

\theta=\arcsin (\varphi - 1)

I used quadratic equation for some equalities. Which showed that the golden ration was involved. But my question is "geometrically, why?"
 
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Interesting question. I have always been fascinated by the golden ratio which keeps appearing at places where you least expect :smile: Will have to think about this one.
 
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1.

\sin \theta = \cos \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}

2.

\sin \theta = \tan \theta

\theta = 0

3.

\cos \theta = \tan \theta

\theta =\arcsin (\varphi -1)

4.

\sin \theta = \csc \theta

\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}

5.

\sin \theta =\sec \theta

\theta does not exist.

6.

\sin \theta =\cot \theta

\theta = \arccos (\varphi -1)

7.

\cos \theta =\csc \theta

\theta does not exist.

8.

\cos \theta =\sec \theta

\theta=0

9.

\cos \theta = \cot \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{2}

10.

\tan \theta =\csc \theta

\theta =\arccos(\varphi-1)

11.

\tan \theta = \sec \theta


\theta=\frac{\pi}{2}

12.

\tan \theta = \cot \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}


13.

\csc \theta =\sec \theta

\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}

14.

\csc \theta =\cot \theta

\theta = \arccos (\varphi -1)

15.

\sec \theta =\cot \theta

\theta=\arcsin (\varphi - 1)

I used quadratic equation for some equalities. Which showed that the golden ration was involved. But my question is "geometrically, why?"
 
IIRC, \cos\frac{\pi}{5} = \frac{\phi}{2}. That's related to the pentagon. Hmm...
 
Here are the hyperbolic equalities.

1.

\sinh x = \cosh x

x= \infty

2.

\sinh x =\tanh x

x=0

3.

\cosh x =\tanh x

{x}_{1}=\frac{- \arcsin (\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}+\frac{i}{2})}{i}


{x}_{2}=\frac{- \arcsin (\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}-\frac{i}{2})}{i}

4.

\sinh x = csch x

x=arcsinh 1

5.

\sinh x = sech x

x=\frac{\ln (2 \varphi +1)}{2}

6.

\sinh x =\coth x

x=\frac{\arccos(1-\varphi)}{i}

7.

\cosh x =csch x

x=arcsinh \sqrt{\varphi-1}

8.

\cosh x =sech x

x=0

9.

\cosh x =\coth x

x=arcsinh (\varphi - 1)

10.

\tanh x = csch x

x=arccosh (\varphi - 1)

11.

\tanh x =sech x

x=arcsinh 1

12.

\tanh x = \coth x

x=\infty

13.

csch x =sech x

x=arctanh 1

14.

csch x =\coth x

x=0

15.

sech x = \coth x

x=arcsinh (\varphi -1 )

Still a lot of golden ratios.
 
pwsnafu said:
IIRC, \cos\frac{\pi}{5} = \frac{\phi}{2}. That's related to the pentagon. Hmm...

Ok, so that's why its related...
 
dimension10 said:
Here are the hyperbolic equalities.


6.

\sinh x =\coth x

x=\frac{\arccos(1-\varphi)}{i}

This one doesn't look right. I'm pretty sure there should be a real solution there.
 
After just doing some calculations I'm pretty sure that the solution to 6. should be

x = \pm \, \cosh^{-1} \phi

BTW. Inverse hyperbolics can usually be alternatively represented using logs.
 
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uart said:
After just doing some calculations I'm pretty sure that the solution to 6. should be

x = \pm \, \cosh^{-1} \phi

BTW. Inverse hyperbolics can usually be alternatively represented using logs.

You mean arccosh right?
 
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uart said:
After just doing some calculations I'm pretty sure that the solution to 6. should be

x = \pm \, \cosh^{-1} \phi

BTW. Inverse hyperbolics can usually be alternatively represented using logs.

That works too. But my solution also works. I converted sinh x to - i sin i x and it works.
 
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And by the way, what is the LaTeX code for arcsinh, arccosh, sech, cosech?
 
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dimension10 said:
And by the way, what is the LaTeX code for arcsinh, arccosh, sech, cosech?

Two things:

1) The inverse hyperbolic functions are not "arc(whatever)". They are actually "ar(whatever)". i.e., arsinh(x), arcosh(x), artanh(x), etc.

2) I don't believe there is latex commands for most of these. You typically have to use \mbox{arsinh}(x), etc.

Tests:

\arsinh(x), \arcosh(x), \artanh(x), \sech(x), \csch(x)

Check to make sure latex doesn't use the misnamed versions:

\arcsinh(x), \arccosh(x)
 
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Mute said:
Two things:

1) The inverse hyperbolic functions are not "arc(whatever)". They are actually "ar(whatever)". i.e., arsinh(x), arcosh(x), artanh(x), etc.

Ok, thanks.

Mute said:
2) I don't believe there is latex commands for most of these. You typically have to use \mbox{arsinh}(x), etc.

Tests:

\arsinh(x), \arcosh(x), \artanh(x), \sech(x), \csch(x)

Check to make sure latex doesn't use the misnamed versions:

\arcsinh(x), \arccosh(x)

Oh. So it can be written as \mbox{arsinh}(x)?
 
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dimension10 said:
Oh. So it can be written as \mbox{arsinh}(x)?

Yep. If you're writing in an actual latex document, you can always define new commands so that you don't always have to use mbox.

For example, writing

\newcommand{\arsinh}{\mbox{arsinh}}

in the top before the document begins would let you use \arsinh as a command.
 
  • #15
dimension10 said:
You mean arccosh right?
Yes the "f^{-1}" notation is still very commonly used for both trig and hyp-trig functions. See for example : http://mathworld.wolfram.com/InverseHyperbolicFunctions.html
dimension10 said:
That works too. But my solution also works. I converted sinh x to - i sin i x and it works.

Yes I know that it works but I was considering being consistent with your original post in which you were clearly only considering real solutions.

For example :
5.

\sin \theta =\sec \theta

\theta does not exist.

There are no real solutions to that equation, but there definitely are complex solutions. Basically I was pointing out that the expression in question doesn't evaluate to a real number, whereas previously you seemed to be only considering reals.
 
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uart said:
Yes the "f^{-1}" notation is still very commonly used for both trig and hyp-trig functions. See for example : http://mathworld.wolfram.com/InverseHyperbolicFunctions.html

I was just clarifying to make sure it was an inverse hyperbolic function and not something like sin^2...




uart said:
There are no real solutions to that equation, but there definitely are complex solutions. Basically I was pointing out that the expression in question doesn't evaluate to a real number, whereas previously you seemed to be only considering reals.

Are you sure there are complex solutions?

\sin \theta =\sec \theta

\sin \theta =\frac{1}{\cos \theta}

\sin \theta \cos \theta =1

As the maximum of both \sin \theta and \cos \theta is 1, both \sin \theta and \cos \theta should be 1. Then as \cos \theta=1, \frac{\theta}{\pi} is a whole number, thus \sin \theta=0. But we have earlier said that \sin\theta=1 and 1 \neq 0 so there is no value of theta.
 
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