Trigonometric identity double definite integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral of the function (52 - x² - y²)^(1/2) over the rectangular region defined by 2 ≤ x ≤ 4 and 2 ≤ y ≤ 6. Participants express confusion regarding the application of trigonometric identities and substitutions in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric substitutions and question why certain identities seem unhelpful in this context. There are inquiries about starting points for the integral and the implications of assuming trigonometric relationships between x and y.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested different substitution methods, noting that the integral may become complex. There is acknowledgment of the need to adjust limits when applying substitutions, and a general sense of exploration regarding the implications of treating x and y as independent variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenge of integrating over a rectangular region while considering the nature of the function involved. There is a mention of the complications arising from the limits of integration depending on the chosen substitution.

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Double integral of (52-x^2-y^2)^.5

2<_ x <_ 4
2<_ y <_ 6

I get up to this simplicity that results in a zero!

1-cos^2(@) - sin^2(@) = 0

This identity seems to be useless.

HELP PLEASE.
 
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clairaut said:
Double integral of (52-x^2-y^2)^.5

2<_ x <_ 4
2<_ y <_ 6

I get up to this simplicity that results in a zero!

1-cos^2(@) - sin^2(@) = 0

This identity seems to be useless.

HELP PLEASE.

The identity is true for angles. But you can not take x=cosθ and y=sinθ here.

ehild
 
Where am I supposed to start?
 
And why can't I assume the trig substitutions here? Is it because the substitution results in that zero?
 
clairaut said:
Double integral of (52-x^2-y^2)^.5

2<_ x <_ 4
2<_ y <_ 6

I get up to this simplicity that results in a zero!

1-cos^2(@) - sin^2(@) = 0

This identity seems to be useless.

HELP PLEASE.

Your integral is <br /> \int_2^4 \left( \int_2^6 \sqrt{52 - x^2 - y^2}\,dy\right)\,dx.<br />

To do the inner integral: substitute y = \sqrt{52 - x^2}\sin\theta. Remember that for this integral x is a constant.

However I suspect that the x-integral you obtain will be nasty.

You can instead set x = r \cos \theta, y = r\sin\theta, but the limits of the r-integral depend on \theta in a complicated way.
 
Thanks. I'll try it. It looks nasty
 
I've tried

X=(52)^.5 [cos(@)]

Y=(52)^.5 [sin(@)]

I can't get the substitution to match
 
I like what pasmith said.

Via pythagoreans theorem -(x^2 + y^2) = -r^2
 
Also don't forget to change your limits.
 
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clairaut said:
I've tried

X=(52)^.5 [cos(@)]

Y=(52)^.5 [sin(@)]

I can't get the substitution to match
x and y are independent variables. (x, y) can be any point on the rectangle 2\le x\le 4, 2\le y\le 6. They do NOT lie on a circle of radius 52 about the origin.
 

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