Triple integral and volume - please tell me if i'm wrong

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The discussion revolves around setting up a triple integral to find the volume of a region bounded by a sphere and an ellipsoid. The specific equations involved are the sphere defined by x² + y² + z² = a² and the ellipsoid given by \(\frac{x^2}{4a^2} + \frac{4y^2}{a^2} + \frac{9z^2}{a^2} = 1\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various coordinate systems, including spherical and cylindrical coordinates, to set up the integral. There are questions about the correctness of the ranges for the variables involved, particularly for θ and φ in spherical coordinates, and the boundaries in cylindrical coordinates.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the original setup and ranges, while others suggest recalculating or re-evaluating the boundaries. There is a recognition that the method may be valid, but the calculations might need revision. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the bounds of integration, particularly regarding the behavior of the sine function and the implications for the volume calculation. There is also mention of the complexity involved in determining the correct boundaries in cylindrical coordinates.

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Homework Statement



I need to set up the triple integral to find the volume of the region bounded by the sphere x2 + y2 + z2 = a2 and the ellipsoid [tex]\frac{x^2}{4a^2}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{4y^2}{a^2}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{9z^2}{a^2}[/tex] = 1


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I solved it in spherical coordination and I think it is correct, if it is not, somebody please tell me why?

V= [tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\int[/tex] r2sin[tex]\phi[/tex] dr d[tex]\theta[/tex] d[tex]\phi[/tex]

0 [tex]\leq[/tex] r [tex]\leq[/tex] [tex]\frac{4 \sqrt{2}a}{sin\phi \sqrt{12 cos^2(\theta) +20}}[/tex]

0 [tex]\leq[/tex] [tex]\theta[/tex] [tex]\leq[/tex] 2 [tex]\pi[/tex]

0 [tex]\leq[/tex] [tex]\phi[/tex] [tex]\leq[/tex] [tex]\pi[/tex]

How I found r? Well we have two z2s here, one for the ellipsoid and the other for the sphere. I actually found r by equating the tow z2s! And so I got 0 [tex]\leq[/tex] r [tex]\leq[/tex] [tex]\frac{4 \sqrt{2}a}{sin\phi \sqrt{12 cos^2(\theta) +20}}[/tex]
 

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That can't be right since 1/sin is not bounded so you're integrating outside the sphere.
 
Please help me find the correct ranges. Are the ranges for [tex]\theta[/tex] for [tex]\phi[/tex] correct?
 
Well, I think your method should work... But you just calculated it wrong. Try again

[tex]\frac{x^2}{4a^2} + \frac{4y^2}{a^2} + \frac{9(a^2 - x^2 - y^2)}{a^2} = 1.[/tex]
 
Dear clamtrox,
I calculated it again and [tex]sin\phi[/tex] was in the same place. Because [tex]x = rsin\phi cos\theta[/tex] & [tex]y = rsin\phi sin\theta[/tex]
 
I tried to solve it in cylindrical coordinates and I found the bounderies. But I couldn't calculate the triple integral and it is too difficult. But would you please tell me that my boundries are correct in cylindrical coordinates.

[tex]0\leq \theta \leq 2\pi[/tex]

[tex]0\leq r \leq \frac{4\sqrt{2}a}{\sqrt{15 cos^2(\theta)+1}}[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{\sqrt{4a^2-r^2-15r^2sin^2\theta}}{6} \leq z \leq \frac{\sqrt{4a^2-r^2-15r^2sin^2\theta}}{6}[/tex]
 
Yeah sorry about that, that was completely wrong by me :) That obviously does not work... I can't figure out an easy way to do it, but what would work is that you just solve the value of r from the ellipsoid equation and then figure out for which angles is r larger than a. That looks really messy though.
 

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