Triple integral forming a solid region

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The discussion revolves around a triple integral related to a solid region, specifically focusing on the geometric properties of the shape formed by the integration limits. Participants are examining the characteristics of this solid, including the number of faces, edges, and corners.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to visualize the solid by drawing diagrams and counting its geometric features. There are differing opinions on the number of faces, with some questioning their own understanding and others providing corrections or alternative counts.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in clarifying the geometric properties of the solid. Some guidance has been offered regarding the identification of faces and the implications of the integration limits, but no consensus has been reached on the exact characteristics of the solid.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the limits of integration and how they relate to the geometry of the solid. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as they relate to homework expectations.

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I drawn the diagram with the limits (for x, y, and z)
and come up with something with 4 faces, 5 corners, 8 edges

is that something you guys got? Thanks
 
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The number of corners and edges are correct. I don't think the number of faces is.
 
I also come up with a different number of faces
 
BvU said:
I also come up with a different number of faces
Like how many as what am I doing wrong??

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The x limit is 0 and z, so for z, it is between y and 1, so I put 1 as upper limit for x.
 
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nysnacc said:
Like how many as what am I doing wrong??The x limit is 0 and z, so for z, it is between y and 1, so I put 1 as upper limit for x.
One of the faces is part of the plane ##x=z##. You don't have that in your picture.
 
I count five faces on your drawings too...
z = 1 is one plane, a square face
x = 0 is a triangular face
y = 0 is a triangular face, not a square face: x runs from 0 to z, not from 0 to 1.
the other two triangular faces have x=y=z as edge in common
 
so it's like a square on top with the edges pointering to a single point on bottom?
 
nysnacc said:
so it's like a square on top with the edges pointering to a single point on bottom?
That's right - like the Great Pyramid (disregarding the references to 'top' and 'bottom'). This shape is known as a 'square pyramid'. The word 'square' is included to distinguish it from a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid. But in common language, the word 'pyramid' usually implies a square base.
 
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nysnacc said:
so it's like a square on top with the edges pointering to a single point on bottom?

Now that you have it, here's a nice picture:
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Now the trick for you is to set up the six integrals. Do you see why when you do ##dz## first something is a bit more complicated?
 
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