Triple Integration from Rectangular to Spherical Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around converting a triple integral from rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates. The integral involves limits defined by a circular region in the xy-plane and a height defined by a parabolic surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of the integral and the appropriate coordinate system to use, with some suggesting cylindrical coordinates might be more suitable. There are attempts to clarify the limits of integration and the relationships between the coordinates.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the conversion process and questioning the assumptions about the coordinate systems. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to visualize the 3D region described by the limits, and there is acknowledgment of the need for multiple integrals based on the values of the angles involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original problem requiring conversion to both cylindrical and spherical coordinates, with some participants having already completed the cylindrical conversion. The discussion highlights the complexity of the region defined by the limits and the potential need for different approaches based on the coordinate system chosen.

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Homework Statement



Convert the integral from rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates

2 √(4-x^2) 4
∫ ∫ ∫ x dz dy dx
-2 -√(4-x^2) x^2+y^2

Homework Equations



x=ρ sin∅ cosθ
y=ρ sin∅ cosθ
z=ρ cos∅

In case the above integrals cannot be understood:
-2 ≤ x ≤ 2
-√(4-x^2) ≤ y ≤ √(4-x^2)
x^2+y^2 ≤ z ≤ 4

The Attempt at a Solution



I figured that 0≤θ≤2∏ but and that the x converts to ρ sin∅ cosθ
and I know you have to multiply the original converted function (ρ sin∅ cosθ) to ρ^2 sin∅
but that's all i figured out
 
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enwarnock said:

Homework Statement



Convert the integral from rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates

2 √(4-x^2) 4
∫ ∫ ∫ x dz dy dx
-2 -√(4-x^2) x^2+y^2

Homework Equations



x=ρ sin∅ cosθ
y=ρ sin∅ cosθ
z=ρ cos∅

The Attempt at a Solution



I figured that 0≤θ≤2∏ but and that the x converts to ρ sin∅ cosθ
and I know you have to multiply the original converted function (ρ sin∅ cosθ) to ρ^2 sin∅
but that's all i figured out

I assume that integtration means$$
\int_{-2}^2\int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4-x^2}}\int_{x^2+y^2}^4x\, dzdydx$$The first thing you should do is draw a picture of the 3D region described by the limits. You will need it to do the spherical limits. Are you sure you aren't asked to put it into cylindrical coordinates? That would be the natural choice.
 
LCKurtz said:
I assume that integtration means$$
\int_{-2}^2\int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4-x^2}}\int_{x^2+y^2}^4x\, dzdydx$$The first thing you should do is draw a picture of the 3D region described by the limits. You will need it to do the spherical limits. Are you sure you aren't asked to put it into cylindrical coordinates? That would be the natural choice.

Actually the homework problem asked to convert to both cylindrical and spherical coordinates and I already finished the cylindrical.
And yes thank you for cleaning up my equation!
 
\int_{-2}^2\int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4-x^2}}\int_{x^2+y^2}^4x\, dzdydx
First, mark vertical lines, on an xy- graph, at x= -2 and x= 2. Of course, y= -\sqrt{4- x^2} and y= \sqrt{4- x^2} are halves of the circle x^2+ y^2= 4 that lies between those vertical lines.

Then z= x^2+ y^2 to z= 4 can be written, in spherical coordinates, as \rho cos(\phi)= \rho^2 sin^2(\phi) or \rho= cot(\phi)csc(\phi) and \rho cos(\phi)= 4 or \rho= sec(\phi)
 
@enwarnock: So how are you coming on the spherical coordinate limits? Do you see that depending on what values ##\phi## takes that your ##\rho## is a two piece function and you are going to need two triple integrals to express the volume?
 

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