Troubles With Transparency In A Modern Society

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The discussion centers on the idea that certain aspects of life and relationships should remain hidden to maintain trust and avoid discomfort. The metaphor of a glass-walled slaughterhouse illustrates the belief that transparency can be inappropriate or harmful. Participants express concern about the push for transparency in government and personal relationships, arguing that excessive openness can lead to distrust and chaos. They suggest that societal issues, such as distrust and ignorance, necessitate some level of concealment. The conversation reflects a tension between the desire for honesty and the complexities of human nature, indicating that too much knowledge may not always be beneficial. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of balance between transparency and the need for privacy in fostering trust.
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Somethings are meant to be hidden from view. You wouldn't build a glass walled slaughter house, would you? In any relationship, there should only be so much that is known. The rest is left to trust and the desire not to know.


(this came out as a poem last night. It seemed very profound at the time. I'm not so sure now)
 
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Mammo said:
Somethings are meant to be hidden from view. You wouldn't build a glass walled slaughter house, would you? In any relationship, there should only be so much that is known. The rest is left to trust and the desire not to know.


(this came out as a poem last night. It seemed very profound at the time. I'm not so sure now)

I have to agree with you. Your point about a slaughter house is a fine example. Though I also will hit the slaughter when stating the following, by a savvy political enthusiast, but the US government seems to want to push transparency and this, if they succeed, will leave us open to so many who are not transparent.
Personal relationships also need the benefit of cover.
I too think this is all going too far, but it didn't just start.
Excessive permissiveness began a long time ago and has simply gotten out of hand.
The poem being so attractive to you at first perhaps had to do with a heartfelt ideal that the current state of things just does not allow for.
Thanks for bringing this up.
 
Lacy33 said:
I have to agree with you. Your point about a slaughter house is a fine example. Though I also will hit the slaughter when stating the following, by a savvy political enthusiast, but the US government seems to want to push transparency and this, if they succeed, will leave us open to so many who are not transparent.
Personal relationships also need the benefit of cover.
I too think this is all going too far, but it didn't just start.
Excessive permissiveness began a long time ago and has simply gotten out of hand.
The poem being so attractive to you at first perhaps had to do with a heartfelt ideal that the current state of things just does not allow for.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Lacy33; Thank you very much for your kind words. You understood what I meant perfectly. It does say a lot, doesn't it.
 
Hiding things isn't meant to be I don't think.

We have to hide things because people are distrustful, bigoted, and ignorant. If these weren't problems then there would be no need to hide anything.
 
TheStatutoryApe said:
Hiding things isn't meant to be I don't think.

We have to hide things because people are distrustful, bigoted, and ignorant. If these weren't problems then there would be no need to hide anything.
It's the nature of being human and the imperfectness of the complex society we have evolved which is 'the problem'. It's not the shortfalls of individuals. It's just the way it is. Too much knowledge may not be a good thing. Do the masses have to know the intricate workings of the world? It would be better if they could simply trust their elected leaders, would it not?
 
TheStatutoryApe said:
Hiding things isn't meant to be I don't think.

We have to hide things because people are distrustful, bigoted, and ignorant. If these weren't problems then there would be no need to hide anything.
The slaughterhouse example is none of those things...

...It's just disgusting.

And perhaps you could call it a trust thing, but giving someone the answer to a problem before they do it can't not alter the way they approach the problem, no matter how honest they are.
 
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