Troubleshooting My Orion 130 Reflector

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with an Orion 130 reflector telescope, particularly concerning the field of view experienced by a new user. Participants explore potential causes for the limited view through the eyepiece, including alignment, eyepiece quality, and eye relief considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the eyepiece may not be inserted properly, potentially resting on mounting screws.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "a quarter of an inch" in the context of field of view, asking for clarification on the eyepiece used and the visibility of objects like the moon.
  • It is noted that the field of view through telescopes is typically limited, with one participant sharing their experience of barely seeing the full moon even with wide-angle eyepieces.
  • A suggestion is made to use a finder scope to help locate objects in the sky more easily.
  • Concerns are raised about the eye relief of the eyepiece, with one participant indicating that their eyesight requires them to be very close to the lens to see the full view.
  • Some participants discuss the common issue of short eye relief in budget eyepieces and suggest considering replacements.
  • One participant shares their experience with different eyepieces, emphasizing the importance of trying equipment before purchasing.
  • Another participant expresses surprise at the use of "a quarter of an inch" to describe field of view, suggesting that field should be expressed as an angle for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the issues faced by the telescope user, with no clear consensus on the exact cause of the limited field of view. Multiple competing explanations and suggestions are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the description of the field of view and the potential impact of eyepiece quality and user eyesight on the viewing experience. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for clearer definitions when discussing field measurements.

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I have an Orion 130 reflector. Never had a telescope before. The field of view is about a quarter inch through the focuser with the 25 mm eyepiece. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong or if there is something wrong with the telescope itself? I'm at my wit's end. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Hi Brian, welcome to PF.
One thing that comes to mind is that the eyepiece is not inserted properly. Perhaps the mounting screws were not unscrewed fully before inserting the eyepiece, so that it sits higher in the focuser than it should (i.e. it's resting on the screws).
 
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Brian Muller said:
I have an Orion 130 reflector. Never had a telescope before. The field of view is about a quarter inch through the focuser with the 25 mm eyepiece. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong or if there is something wrong with the telescope itself? I'm at my wit's end. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
"A quarter of an inch" doesn't really mean anything in this context, so it is tough to tell what you really mean. Did the scope come with a 10mm eyepiece too? Are you saying it's a worse view through the 25mm than the 10mm? What do you see when you look at the moon, for example; can you see the whole thing?

Do you have glasses or might your eye otherwise be too far from the eyepiece?
 
Brian Muller said:
I have an Orion 130 reflector. Never had a telescope before. The field of view is about a quarter inch through the focuser with the 25 mm eyepiece. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong or if there is something wrong with the telescope itself? I'm at my wit's end. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The field of view through a telescope is usually only a few degrees at best. Often even less than that. I can barely see the entirety of the full moon through one of my telescopes, even with my widest angle eyepiece inserted, and the Moon is only half a degree in diameter.

One of the things you need with any telescope is a smaller 'finder scope' attached to the side. This small scope should have a much larger field of view and, if you have aligned the finder scope with the main scope, should make it much easier to find what you're looking for in the sky. If you have one, make sure to align it with the main scope during the daytime, as it will be nearly impossible to do so at night.
 
If I'm not mistaken, I believe he means that when looking through the eye piece only a small amount of area is viewable. Not sure how to put it but when he should be able to see "O" he is only able to see "o" instead with the surrounding area being blacked out. So somewhere there is a misalignment.
 
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Thanks! The eye piece is in correct. I think it is my eye relief. My eye sight is not what it used to be. My dad can see through it fine. My eye has to be almost touching the lens to see it fill up. Thinking about getting a camera Mount and try that out and put it on my computer screen. In the meantime, I'm going to see if I can see anything on the next clear night. I will get back to you all. It's much appreciated!
 
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My eye has to be almost touching the lens to see it fill up.

That's normal.
 
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Drakkith said:
That's normal.
...and it is common for cheap eyepieces (like what can come with a budget telescope) to have really poor eye relief. you may want to consider buying a replacement.
 
russ_watters said:
...and it is common for cheap eyepieces (like what can come with a budget telescope) to have really poor eye relief. you may want to consider buying a replacement.
And for some very expensive eyepieces! I use spectacles and cannot use some optically excellent Pentax and Televue eyepieces specifically because the eye relief is too short.
 
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AndyG said:
I use spectacles and cannot use some optically excellent Pentax and Televue eyepieces specifically because the eye relief is too short.
Have you tried without spectacles? This wouldn't be a solution if you have strong astigmatism but it could be worth trying. You can get your eye much closer to the EP that way.
 
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It's not a problem for me - I can view without specs but I choose not to for various reasons. I use other eyepieces (and binoculars) with longer eye relief and they are great for me. It's one reason why Astro Societies are so useful - you can try other prople's equipment and sometimes borrow things to try which saves making expensive mistakes. My favourite Leica zooms were about £750 new when I bought them as used (but still expensive) items and I have some £30 eyepieces which are also great. My other half's favoutite eyepiece is a £10 plossl! Where possible, try before you buy and see what works *for you*!
 
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AndyG said:
It's not a problem for me - I can view without specs but I choose not to for various reasons. I use other eyepieces (and binoculars) with longer eye relief and they are great for me. It's one reason why Astro Societies are so useful - you can try other prople's equipment and sometimes borrow things to try which saves making expensive mistakes. My favourite Leica zooms were about £750 new when I bought them as used (but still expensive) items and I have some £30 eyepieces which are also great. My other half's favoutite eyepiece is a £10 plossl! Where possible, try before you buy and see what works *for you*!
It surprises me that, with all your apparent experience of eyepieces, you are quoting "a quarter of an inch" as a field of view. Field is expressed as an angle or it doesn't mean a lot.
 
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