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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum force required to hold a smaller block (m = 16kg) against a larger block (M = 88kg) with a coefficient of friction of 0.38, while the surface beneath block M is frictionless. The participant derived the normal force (Fn) exerted by block M on block m as 413N and calculated the gravitational force (Fg) acting on block m as 157N. The final answer for the applied force (F) was determined to be 2.68e3 N, confirming the calculations for the system's acceleration and forces acting on the blocks.

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Homework Statement



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Two blocks m (16kg) and M (88kg) are as shown in the figure. If the co-efficient of friction b/w the blocks is 0.38 but the surface beneath the block is frictionless, what is the minimum force required to hold m against M?

How would you go about solving this kind of a problem? which concept am i required to use?

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F(friction)= c.o.f * F(normal)

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So i tried solving it (its too lengthy to write exactly what i did) but i ended up with a final answer of F = 2.68e3 N. Can someone double check that? thanks
 

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The solution need not be lengthy.
If F is the applied force, what is the common acceleration of M and m?
What is normal reaction on m by M?
What is the frictional force between m and M? What is its direction?
Which force pulls m down ward direction?
 
How are you supposed to get the system's acceleration though?

Fa = Force Applied
Ff = Force Friction
Fg = Force Gravity
Fn = Force Normal

\SigmaFx = MA

Fa = 104a
a = Fa/104?

Doesn't really help unless I'm missing something.

Force causing the friction (gravity) is:

Fg = 16(9.81)
Fg = 157N

Therefore, the block has 157 Newton's being pulled down.

\SigmaFy = MA

The block is held still, therefore, no acceleration
\SigmaFy = 0
Ff - Fg = 0

\muFn - 157 = 0
Fn = 157/(.38)
Fn = 413N

This would be, in theory, the force that the big 88 Kg block exerts on the small block... But it still doesn't help me find the dang acceleration

Edit: Oh nevermind... ha ha... Yeah it does. I can then use the system of the 2nd block to find the acceleration of the full system.
 

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