Two-Bodies Problem REAL SOLUTION

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The discussion focuses on deriving the time-dependent vector of motion r(t) in celestial mechanics, specifically for the two-body problem. It is noted that r(t) cannot be expressed in elementary functions, necessitating the calculation of θ(t) instead. The mean anomaly M(t) is identified as a starting point, leading to the eccentric anomaly E(t) through Kepler's equation, which is also non-elementary. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of finding a closed-form solution for r(t) and clarifies that the lack of elementary functions indicates a more complicated mathematical relationship. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving the two-body problem effectively.
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hi everybody,

I've recently got down to celestial mechanics and I can't remember how I used to derive the time dependent vector of motion r(t). Any (mathematical) help would be appreciated.

PS: To avoid misundertandings, I don't need the classical r(θ) plane curve orbits!
 
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Trifis said:
hi everybody,

I've recently got down to celestial mechanics and I can't remember how I used to derive the time dependent vector of motion r(t). Any (mathematical) help would be appreciated.

PS: To avoid misundertandings, I don't need the classical r(θ) plane curve orbits!
There is no solution to r(t) in the elementary functions. You will need to find θ(t) (which also does not have a solution in the elementary functions) and then use that r(θ) that you don't want to use.

The standard way to find θ(t) is to first determine the mean anomaly M(t). This is pretty easy; the mean anomaly is simply a linear function of time. Then solve for the eccentric anomaly by via Kepler's equation M(t) = E(t) - e\sin(E(t)). Kepler's equation is a transcendental function. The inverse Kepler function does cannot be expressed in the elementary functions. Once you have E(t), solve for θ(t) via \tan \frac {\theta(t)} 2 = \sqrt{ \frac {1+e}{1-e} } \tan \frac {E(t)} 2.
 
@mathman do you recognize a derivation of r(t) there? because I don't..

@D H I'll put your suggestion to test as soon as possible! I have a question though, what's the point of referring to the solution as not compiled with elementary functions?
 
Trifis said:
I have a question though, what's the point of referring to the solution as not compiled with elementary functions?
It means that there isn't a nice closed-form solution.
 
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