What is the definition of moment M_z in Arnold's book on classical mechanics?

In summary: However, it's worth noting that Arnold defines both a and M as "moments" in different contexts. In summary, Arnold uses the notation M_z to represent the torque or moment of a system when relative to the z axis, and the notation [r,F] or M = [r,F] to represent the moment of a vector or force. The unit consistency may seem off, but it is important to distinguish between these two different definitions of moment in classical mechanics.
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Yingnan Xu
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Hi guys, so in Arnold's mathematical methods of classical mechanics p43, he defined the moment M_z, or L_z, the angular momentum, relative to the z axis of vector F applied at the point r is the projection onto the z axis of the moment of the vector F relative to some point on this axis, M_z=(e_z,[r,F]), where this square bracket is cross product. I think this should be the time derivative of M_z otherwise the unit is not consistent. Or he actually means the moment of M_z is the torque?
 
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Hello Yingnan, ##\quad## :welcome: ##\quad## !

I don't have this particular book, but yes: he means torque. Alias moment, with dimension
mass ##\times##length2/ time2

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Yingnan Xu said:
M_z=(e_z,[r,F])
notation is unfortunate; better write $$M_z = (\vec r\times\vec F)_z {\text { or, better }}\vec M = \vec r\times\vec F $$
 
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Yingnan Xu said:
Hi guys, so in Arnold's mathematical methods of classical mechanics p43, he defined the moment M_z, or L_z, the angular momentum, relative to the z axis of vector F applied at the point r is the projection onto the z axis of the moment of the vector F relative to some point on this axis, M_z=(e_z,[r,F]), where this square bracket is cross product. I think this should be the time derivative of M_z otherwise the unit is not consistent. Or he actually means the moment of M_z is the torque?

Good catch- I didn't notice that one. Since he defined M = [r,dr/dt] earlier on pg 42, M_z=(e_z,[r,F]) or M = [r,F] does seem to be inconsistent with regards to the units [L] and [T] (see also the theorem proof on pg. 44).
 

Related to What is the definition of moment M_z in Arnold's book on classical mechanics?

1. What is the definition of moment M_z in Arnold's book on classical mechanics?

The moment M_z, also known as the angular momentum, is a measure of the rotational motion of a system around a specific axis. It is defined as the product of the mass of an object, its velocity, and the distance from the axis of rotation.

2. How is the moment M_z related to classical mechanics?

In classical mechanics, the moment M_z is a fundamental concept that plays a crucial role in describing the rotational dynamics of a system. It is used to calculate the torque, or rotational force, acting on an object and is essential in understanding the conservation of angular momentum.

3. Can you provide an example of moment M_z in real-world applications?

One example of the moment M_z in real-world applications is the motion of a spinning top. The moment M_z is responsible for keeping the top upright and causing it to precess, or wobble, as it spins. This phenomenon can be observed in other objects, such as gyroscopes and rotating satellites.

4. How is the moment M_z calculated mathematically?

The moment M_z is calculated using the formula M_z = mvr, where m is the mass of the object, v is its velocity, and r is the distance from the axis of rotation. In vector form, it can be expressed as M_z = m(r x v), where the cross product (r x v) gives the direction of the moment.

5. What are the units of measurement for moment M_z?

The units of measurement for moment M_z depend on the units used for mass, velocity, and distance. In the SI system, the moment M_z is measured in kilogram-meters squared per second (kg*m^2/s), while in the US customary system, it is measured in pound-feet squared per second (lb*ft^2/s).

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