Two paralel streams of electrons.

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In summary, according to classical electrodynamics, parallel and same direction currents attract each other. However, in a situation where two parallel streams of electrons are moving with constant velocity, the Lorentz force will never be attractive and will only become less repulsive as the velocity increases. This is due to the effects of length contraction and time dilation, which reduce the acceleration and overall force between the streams of electrons. Therefore, the sum of the Coulomb repulsive force and magnetic attractive force will never be attractive in this case, even when the electrons are moving at the speed of light.
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Consider two parallel streams of electrons in vacuum. Each stream moves with constant velocity and carries a current. According to classical electrodynamics parallel and same direction currents attract each other.
The problem is that I can't see how relativistic length contraction can cause attraction in this situation.

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Does classical electrodynamics perhaps say the attractive force becomes equal to the repulsive force when the electrons are moving at the speed of light?


Because in relativity:

Transformed repulsive force = repulsive force / gamma.

Transformed repulsive force approaches zero, when speed of electrons approaches speed of light.
 
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alpha358 said:
Consider two parallel streams of electrons. Each stream carries a current.

Ate you asking about two parallel electron beams in a vacuum, or streams of electrons flowing through a current-carrying wire or other conductor?
 
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alpha358 said:
Consider two parallel streams of electrons. Each stream carries a current. According to classical electrodynamics parallel and same direction currents attract each other.
The problem is that I can't see how relativistic length contraction can cause attraction in this situation.
In this circumstance the Lorentz force will never be attractive. As v increases it will become less repulsive, but never attractive. I encourage you to work it out for yourself to confirm.

To understand length contraction's role in reducing the attraction consider the following. Let's say that the spacing between electron's is constant in our frame so that the charge density is constant and I is proportional to v. As v increases the distance between electrons in the electron's frame increases. This is required so that it will length contract down to the correct distance in our frame. That effect causes the acceleration in the electron's rest frame to reduce. Then, that acceleration is further reduced in our frame due to time dilation.
 
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jartsa said:
Does classical electrodynamics perhaps say the attractive force becomes equal to the repulsive force when the electrons are moving at the speed of light?

Thanks now I see. I have overlooked the fact that observer at rest will see dominating Coulomb repulsive force and magnetic attractive force increasing with electrons velocity. Sum of these forces is never attractive in this case.
 
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1. What are two parallel streams of electrons?

Two parallel streams of electrons refer to two streams of electrons that are traveling in the same direction, side by side, without interacting with each other.

2. How are two parallel streams of electrons created?

Two parallel streams of electrons can be created by passing an electric current through a conductor, such as a wire, and splitting it into two parallel paths using a device called a splitter or a fork.

3. What is the significance of two parallel streams of electrons?

The significance of two parallel streams of electrons lies in their ability to create magnetic fields that can be used in various electronic devices, such as transformers and motors.

4. How do two parallel streams of electrons behave in relation to each other?

Two parallel streams of electrons do not interact with each other and maintain their own individual paths, unless they are influenced by an external force such as an electric or magnetic field.

5. Are two parallel streams of electrons found in nature?

Yes, two parallel streams of electrons can be found in nature, such as in the Earth's ionosphere where electric currents flow in parallel paths, creating magnetic fields that protect us from solar winds.

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