Typical values and danger of circuit components

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the typical values of voltage, current, and resistance in circuits, as well as the dangers associated with these values when working with a programmable DC power supply. Participants explore both theoretical and practical aspects of circuit safety and component behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on typical voltage, current, and resistance values across different circuit types, from small table circuits to industrial applications.
  • Another participant notes that the power supply can generate 32 volts at 120 mA, suggesting that these levels are generally safe unless applied to specific components like inductors.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential dangers of high current levels, with one participant emphasizing that currents above several mA can be extremely dangerous.
  • Participants discuss the risks associated with improperly connected capacitors, which can explode or release smoke if not handled correctly.
  • One participant warns that other power supplies can pose significant risks, especially if they are not properly isolated or if they encounter higher voltages.
  • Recommendations are made to start with low voltage and current settings to ensure safety while learning to use the power supply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the safety of various voltage and current levels, with some agreeing on the dangers of high currents while others emphasize the importance of proper circuit setup. There is no consensus on the absolute safety of specific components or configurations.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for caution with components like electrolytic capacitors and the importance of checking data sheets before operating circuits. There are also mentions of the potential for components to be damaged if not used correctly, but no specific mathematical calculations or formulas are agreed upon for assessing danger levels.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals working in experimental labs, students learning about circuit design, or hobbyists interested in electronics and safety practices when using power supplies.

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Hi guys,

I am a physics graduate, currently working in an experimental lab. Before coming here, I have no solid experience in lab stuffs. Anyway I enjoy working at lab a lot.

The first task I have is to learn and master a programable DC source (Yokogawa 7651). To do this, I personaly think that I need some knowlegde for the following:

1) What are the typical values of voltage, current, resistance of a circuit? I would like to know the typical values of them ranging from as small as table circuits to industrial circuits.
2) How dangerous is a value of voltage, or current? I think we can calculate the power consumed by the whole circuit by a simple estimate P=VI=V2/R=I2R. However, this is for the whole circuit, rather than for a small object such as our body when coming into contact with the circuit. Make it precise, is there anyway to calculate the power that our body will be receiving from a circuit, given some necessary information?

I would appreciate if you guys like to share with me you says or some links that answer to the above doubts.


Thanks,:smile::confused:
Xian Yang
 
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Looks like a nice power supply although the front panel is confusing. Maybe with the instruction book it may become clearer.

It can generate 32 volts at 120 mA. These are quite safe for you to touch unless you apply that voltage to a large inductor. In that case, you could get a large voltage generated.

Many electronic devices would not stand 32 volts and may be destroyed. So you would have to be aware of that.

Devices like electrolytic capacitors have voltage ratings that can be less than that and they also have polarity requirements.

LEDs and Zener diodes have to have a series resistor that must be appropriate for the device and the power source.

Otherwise, you should perhaps set up a few small projects to learn how to use it. Keep the voltage low for a while until you get used to it.

I guess it could be used for calibrating other measuring equipment like digital voltmeters, rather than actually powering equipment with it.
 
When I hook up the power supply to my circuit and turn it on, the first thing I look to see is how much current the circuit is drawing out of the power supply. I don't know what exactly you will be doing, but most circuits you throw together on a breadboard won't need more than several mA. Of course, check the data sheets and your circuit before you flip the switch so you have an idea of how much current there should be. If you see the current jump up to a couple hundred mA or over 1 A, something may be wrong. Current at this level is extremely dangerous.

Make sure that if you use electrolytic capacitors, you have them biased properly because they can get damaged, smoke, and even pop out at a high speed.

Make sure that if you use op amps you are properly biasing them because they too can easily be damaged.

As vk6kro said, you may want to keep voltage low to start with. But especially keep current low; once you get above a few mA you need to be careful.
 
FYI,

Capacitors do blow up violently when hooked up badly. They also release lots of smoke (white with purpleish tint in my case).

However, if you don't have your face over them when it blows up then you should be fine. If you do then stop breathing, turn off the PSU and go wash your face.

I'd recommend you build a few simple circuits, LED/resistors then put in switches and so on.

120 milliamps is not a lot, but it should drive a couple LEDs
 
The most dangerous component you could encounter is another power supply.

This one may be well prepared and protected from other power sources, but it might not.
If it encountered a higher voltage, you may well blow up some extremely expensive components or turn your power supply into a heap of scrap.

So, always ensure that any circuit you apply it to has the power disconnected by pulling the plug from the wall. Also, capacitors, especially electrolytic capacitors can hold a charge for a long time and need to be discharged before any testing.
 
Thanks guy!
 

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