U substitution. Why -1/x^2 is my du?

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Homework Statement



∫(1/x^(2))(3+1/x)^(3)

Homework Equations



U substitution is the way to go here

The Attempt at a Solution



My problem is that I can't figure my du and what is next. I know which one it is but I don't know the reason for it.

u=3+1/x
du= I chose ln|x| first but that got me nowhere. My buddy told me (txt) me it is -1/x^(2) which eventually takes you to -(u)^4/4 but i can't figure out what happened in between.

thanks for the hand.
 
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BTW i just need someone to explain me how to choose du. I'm fine after that
 
PauloE said:

Homework Statement



∫(1/x^(2))(3+1/x)^(3)

Homework Equations



U substitution is the way to go here

The Attempt at a Solution



My problem is that I can't figure my du and what is next. I know which one it is but I don't know the reason for it.

u=3+1/x
du= I chose ln|x| first but that got me nowhere. My buddy told me (txt) me it is -1/x^(2) which eventually takes you to -(u)^4/4 but i can't figure out what happened in between.

thanks for the hand.
(Use the superscript, X2, icon for exponents.)
First of all, it's a big help to include the dx with your integral:

∫(1/x2)(3+1/x)3 dx

It can look even better in LaTeX .

## \displaystyle
\int \frac{1}{x^2}\left(3+\frac{1}{x}\right)^3\, dx
##

What is the derivative of ## \displaystyle \left(3+\frac{1}{x}\right)^3 \ ?##

(That won't give the answer directly, but it may lead you to it.)
.
 
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alright, with the chain rule I get 3(3+1/x)^2*-1/x^2

-1/x^2 would be my du then. (I was deriving it wrong before) so now that I have this minus sign I put it outside the Integrate sign. after that I'm good. Thanks!

So if instead of a -1 i would have a 3 do I deal with it as if it were k and put it outside of the integral?

BTW I've just downloaded LaTex
 
PauloE said:
alright, with the chain rule I get 3(3+1/x)^2*-1/x^2

-1/x^2 would be my du then. (I was deriving it wrong before) so now that I have this minus sign I put it outside the Integrate sign. after that I'm good. Thanks!

So if instead of a -1 i would have a 3 do I deal with it as if it were k and put it outside of the integral?

BTW I've just downloaded LaTex

You can always move a constant outside of an integral. And you didn't need to download LaTex. It's built into this site. Try looking here https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3977517&postcount=3
 
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∫(1/x^2)(3+1/x)^3[\itex] test
 
PauloE said:
∫(1/x^2)(3+1/x)^3[\itex] test
<br /> <br /> ∫(1/x^2)(3+1/x)^3 The slash in front of \itex is in the wrong direction. It should be /itex.
 
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PauloE said:
alright, with the chain rule I get 3(3+1/x)^2*-1/x^2

-1/x^2 would be my du then. (I was deriving it wrong before) so now that I have this minus sign I put it outside the Integrate sign. after that I'm good. Thanks!

So if instead of a -1 I would have a 3 do I deal with it as if it were k and put it outside of the integral?

BTW I've just downloaded LaTex

You don't seem to like dx !

du would be -1/x2dx , multiplied by some constant.

Since you end up with (3+1/x)2 , and you need (3+1/x)^3, you must need to start with a different power on the (3 + 1/x) factor.
 
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SammyS said:
You don't seem to like dx !

du would be -1/x2dx , multiplied by some constant.

Since you end up with (3+1/x)2 , and you need (3+1/x)^3, you must need to start with a different power on the (3 + 1/x) factor.

true, I have to pay more attention with writing dx

My final answer is:

-((3+1/x)<sup>4</sup>/4) + c

thanks for the help!
 
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PauloE said:
true, I have to pay more attention with writing dx

My final answer is:

-((3+1/x)<sup>4</sup>/4) + c

thanks for the help!
You can't mix LaTeX with the <sup> tags. Here's what you wrote, fixed.
##-((3 + 1/x)^4/4) + C##

My LaTeX script looks like this:
-((3 + 1/x)^4/4) + C
 
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PauloE said:
true, I have to pay more attention with writing dx

My final answer is:

-((3+1/x)<sup>4</sup>/4) + c

thanks for the help!

Right, -((3+1/x)^4/4) + c. If you are wondering why it didn't TeX, don't use the shortcut superscripts and stuff inside Tex. Use ^ to get superscripts.
 
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-((3 + 1/x)^4/4) + C let's see now

Thank y'all for the help
 

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