U Toronto Phys-Math Specialist / EC Engineering

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Enrolling in both the Physics & Mathematics Specialist program and the Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) program at the University of Toronto poses significant challenges. Both programs are among the most rigorous at the university, and they belong to separate faculties, making it unlikely to pursue a dual major. Engineering programs require a comprehensive set of courses for accreditation, which limits the ability to take additional courses outside the core curriculum. Attempting to manage both programs would necessitate an overwhelming course load, potentially requiring seven or eight courses per semester. For those interested in both fields, enrolling in the Engineering Science program with a physics option is recommended. This path offers a balanced exposure to engineering and physics, especially in the first two years, before allowing for a focus on physics in the later years. While the math component in Engineering Science may not be as extensive as in the Math and Physics Specialist program, it still provides a solid foundation for both theoretical and experimental physics. Overall, pursuing both programs simultaneously is deemed impractical.
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Hello friends,

I am planning to enroll the program of Physics & Mathematics Specialist in University of Toronto. What are the chances of also majoring in EC Engineering by only getting the core courses? Do they let you to major in both?

ECE Program: http://www.undergrad.engineering.utoronto.ca/Assets/UndergradEng+Digital+Assets/calendar1011/ESC.pdf

Math & Phys Specialist Program: http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/calendar/crs_mat.htm

Some courses include few others. Do I have to take the courses include same topics even if they don't seem to exclude each other?
 
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No chance. First of all, these two programs are arguably the two of the toughest programs at UofT in the sciences and engineering. To do both of them at the same time would be insane to say the least.

Secondly, they are two completely separate faculties, and I don't know if you can really duel major in both. As far as I know an engineering program is a degree, not just a major. To do both I would imagine you would have to go for a full degree in both.

Thirdly, to get your degree in engineering, you need to take a lot of engineering courses to gain engineering accreditation units. You can't just take the core courses. This makes it very hard to take any courses outside of engineering beyond the curricula given in the EngSci calendar. Only way you could do it would be to take probably 7 or 8 courses a semester.

Oh, and I am a bit confused. You say you want to do the ECE program but you linked the calendar for Engineering Science stream. Engineering Science has an ECE option, but you don't do that until third year. There is an entirely different stream called ECE which is purely ECE from year 1.

If you really want to do both Math and Physics, and ECE, I suggest you enroll in Engineering Science and do the physics option. It is what I am currently in right now. It basically gives you a lot of exposure to engineering in the first two years, then in years 3 and 4 you can focus more on physics. The math is a lot more lacking compared to the Math and Physics Specialist, but you will still be very competent in math.

I would suggest the Math and Physics option if you want to go into theoretical physics since it involves a lot more math. Engi Sci physics would be best for experimental physics, but is still sufficient to do any sort of theoretical physics.

tldr; I don't think its possible to do both programs, and even if it was, you would be insane to do it.
 
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