UM: No Calculus in 200 Level Physics Courses - Is This Normal?

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In the discussion, a student expresses concern about the lack of calculus in their 200-level physics course, specifically Electricity & Magnetism. They note that while the textbook includes calculus concepts, the instructor primarily uses simpler algebraic methods. Other participants affirm that this approach is common at the undergraduate level, as many instructors opt for shortcuts to simplify complex topics. The conversation highlights the variability in course numbering systems across universities, emphasizing that course names and descriptions are more informative than the numbers alone. The student shares that they are using the Giancolli textbook, while another mentions a different edition by Knight, indicating the diversity of resources available. Overall, the discussion reassures the student that the absence of calculus is typical for their current course.
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No Calculus??

I'm taking 200 level courses in physics right now, and I noticed that there is absolutely no calculus involved in the teaching. The book we use has it, but the instructor doesn't use it. Aside from a B x dl or E x dA here and there, there's nothing. Is that normal?

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What is the name of the course?
 
I'm guessing Electricity & Magnetism.

It is normal for undergraduate level, since there are shortcuts so that you don't need flux integrals and all the complicated math reduces to simple algebra
 
Yeah, it's 202 E & M right now.

That's a relief. I've been screwed before by teachers who thought I didn't need this or that, only to need it in the next class. =/

PL

EDIT: Besides, the course is hard enough as it is. :)
 
Keep in mind that the term "200-level" course really holds no meaning for most of us since every university has a completely different course numbering scheme. What's more useful is the name of the course, maybe a brief description from the catalog, and the name of the textbook(s) you're using.
 
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it went by years, first year 100, 2nd 200, etc. (although this is my first year in college, I took HS physics).

We use Giancolli (sp?) 3rd edition physics book.

PL

EDIT: The title is "Physics for Scientists and Engineers"
 
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Poop-Loops said:
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it went by years, first year 100, 2nd 200, etc. (although this is my first year in college, I took HS physics).

We use Giancolli (sp?) 3rd edition physics book.

PL

EDIT: The title is "Physics for Scientists and Engineers"

There are multiple books with that title, mine is by Knight.

My university uses 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, etc.
 

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